Karl Rove - creepy s***bag

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

Rove's pronouncements are part of a larger strategy taking hold.

"Look! Over here!! Something shiny!"

.....and now we all know who gets distracted by "shiny" things

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

.....and now we all know who gets distracted by "shiny" things

Do we?

I think the distractions are aimed as much at the Bush supporters as the other side. Better for the conservatives to be paying attention to something like Durban's quote or blindly believing liberals are soft on terror than to have them pay attention to how badly Iraq is going.

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

Do we?

I think the distractions are aimed as much at the Bush supporters as the other side. Better for the conservatives to be paying attention to something like Durban's quote or blindly believing liberals are soft on terror than to have them pay attention to how badly Iraq is going.

Lol- I assumed that's what he meant to begin with. Rove's comments aren't distracting in the least to me- I know exactly what the creep is up to. I'm glad he's not on our 'side'. There may be some wacky libs out there, but none as hateful and hatefilled as Rush, Ann, Karl and Co. I hope I never get as bitter and twisted as these poor souls are.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

Do we?

I think the distractions are aimed as much at the Bush supporters as the other side. Better for the conservatives to be paying attention to something like Durban's quote or blindly believing liberals are soft on terror than to have them pay attention to how badly Iraq is going.

....but why would Rove want to "divert" conservative attention away from Durban's commets?

No, if he was really trying to "divert" conservative attention he would have said something that riled up their passions...not the liberals.

[wendybeth]

I thought liberal baiting was a favorite conservative pasttime. "What do you mean, the war is going badly? Hey, look!!! That liberal red diaper doper baby is lighting his crack-pipe with the American flag!!!!!"

Nothing like tearing into the opposition to distract people from the real issues, Jeff- it's something that ALL politicos do. Tell me, is what Durbin said really that much more important than the war? The immigration issue? Social Security? Inflation? If you follow the news, it must be. Meanwhile, the very people with the power to protect us from the bad guys have done very little in that area. They talk a lot about how we should be afraid, and why, but they have done virtually nothing to alleviate that threat. Time has an interesting article on how easily terrorists could take over a nuclear reactor, and the people guarding them are screaming for help. The government is NOT listening. Meanwhile, big business just got the go ahead to use 'eminent domain' to take anyones property away from them, if a city or township deems it economically advantageous. The right to Free Speech is being chipped away at.

Ben Franklin said it best: "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

The government is NOT listening. Meanwhile, big business just got the go ahead to use 'eminent domain' to take anyones property away from them, if a city or township deems it economically advantageous.

Interesting that you would bring this up.

Every Conservative on the Supreme Court voted against this kicking freedom in the teeth of an idea.....it was those (ahem) liberal "activist" judges who saw fit to take rights away from the individual in favor of the so called greater good.

******O'Connor was joined in her dissent by Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas********

Wendybeth, are you sure you are a liberal? Less then a month ago you were quoting FOX and now you are siding with the likes of Thomas and Scalia /

[wendybeth]

Sorry, Jeff, but one must do their homework first...


First, I listed the eminent domain decision as a negative strike against our Constitutional rights, but I don't recall saying it was only conservatives that voted for it. The majority opinion was made by two Dems, two Repubs and a conservative independent. So, both sides suck equally in this decision. My point is that the erosion of rights is happening, and people are starting to wake up.

As far as Fox, I make a point of using conservative outlets whenever possible when arguing with conservatives. I like to hoist them by their own petard.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Sorry, Jeff, but one must do their homework first...


First, I listed the eminent domain decision as a negative strike against our Constitutional rights, but I don't recall saying it was only conservatives that voted for it. The majority opinion was made by two Dems, two Repubs and a conservative independent. So, both sides suck equally in this decision. My point is that the erosion of rights is happening, and people are starting to wake up.

The four who voted against it are also considered by most to be the 4 MOST Conservative members of the court.....this was NOT a politicaly mixed opinion in any way......the so called two Repubs were appointed by Repubs but have never been considered Conservative(and their voting records support that)

To put it another way.........Ginsburg and her cohorts voted to take away our rights and Scalia and co. voted to protect our rights.

......Sorry, but both sides don't suck equally in this decision......clearly one side was trying to protect our rights and one side was trying step on them.