Lost!

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by RStar

Interesting idea, but then how is there a different timeline when the plane didn't crash, and the island is under water?

Could Jacob and the man in black be Greek gods, and the Island be Mt. Olympus or Atlantis?

Why not? We're making assumptions based upon what we know which are leading our line of thinking down a path that may be completely incorrect.

We know that when Juliet pounded on the bomb the screen turned white. We also know that the screen turned white whenever they would jump time.

We know that there have been time jumps already. Why couldn't there be a completely alternate universe where the plane never crashes? We 'think' we know that Jack recognizes people on the plane. But is it a can't place them look or a I know for sure I know them from somewhere, why don't they recognize me look.

Was the red mark on Jack's neck from the turbulence (somehow) or the explosion/time jump?

Was Desmond really on the plane or was he jumping through time and ended up on the planet for a few moments.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Was Desmond really on the plane or was he jumping through time and ended up on the planet for a few moments.

Usually Desmonds jumps thru time have only been to places he has been to in the past.....so he either was:

1) On the plane all the way from Sydney to LA
2) Never on the plane.
3) On the plane in Jack's mind only.
4) We(and Jack) witnessed more than one alternate flight 815....one with Desmond and one without(perhaps this has something to do with Charlie)

or

5) Desmond now has a new skill


Speaking of Desmond.....last we heard of him he swore off the whole Island affair but was warned by Hawking that his part wasn't finished.

Since then we have not seen Desmond but Hawking's plan to explode the H bomb was carried out; which leads me to believe that her plan extends beyond the H-bomb and that Desmond does indeed have a part to play

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

but Hawking's plan to explode the H bomb was carried out

We assume we did, but you know what happens when we assume.

How do we really know the bomb went off? What proof do we have?

After 5 years of LOST I don't consider the alternate timelines, alternate universes or Juliet saying "it worked" confirmation.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

We assume we did, but you know what happens when we assume.

How do we really know the bomb went off? What proof do we have?

Good point....perhaps it didn't go off(but what proof do we have that it didn't)

Perhaps what we are witnessing is what happens if the bomb denonates(plane?) and what happens if it does not??? Kind of a Schrodingers Cat exercise.....maybe the whole point of LOST is to answer the age old question, once and for all, "if a tree falls in the forest..."

[Moonliner]

So to sum up, so far the season of Answers is really just more questions.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

We assume we did, but you know what happens when we assume.

How do we really know the bomb went off? What proof do we have?

In the enhanced series recap before the season premiere the captioning states clearly "bomb detonation".

fwiw

[RStar]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Why not? We're making assumptions based upon what we know which are leading our line of thinking down a path that may be completely incorrect.

We know that when Juliet pounded on the bomb the screen turned white. We also know that the screen turned white whenever they would jump time.

We know that there have been time jumps already. Why couldn't there be a completely alternate universe where the plane never crashes? We 'think' we know that Jack recognizes people on the plane. But is it a can't place them look or a I know for sure I know them from somewhere, why don't they recognize me look.

Was the red mark on Jack's neck from the turbulence (somehow) or the explosion/time jump?

Was Desmond really on the plane or was he jumping through time and ended up on the planet for a few moments.

That's true, it could have been a time jump. Let's say when Juliet hit the bomb it didn't go off, but they jumped in time instead. That would explain a few things, like the fact that they survived an explosion that should have also made a bigger hole than that. It would also explain how the hatch had been finished before it was blown up.

In fact, perhaps there are many different timelines. I love this stuff!

Oh, and I think Desmond has been on the planet all along....

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by RStar

That's true, it could have been a time jump. Let's say when Juliet hit the bomb it didn't go off, but they jumped in time instead.

Why not both?

That would explain a few things, like the fact that they survived an explosion that should have also made a bigger hole than that.

Actually, I think Sayid just took the fissionable part of the hydrogen bomb....so the crater probably was just about right. Nevertheless, the crater we are looking at was from Desmonds fail-safe key, not Jacks bomb.......unless they are one in the same

In fact, perhaps there are many different timelines.

I think you've got it!

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I don't think Jacob necessarily represents "good", and Esau "evil". I have a feeling it's going to turn out to be more like the "Vorlon=order/Shadows=chaos" situation in Babylon5.

This makes me wonder if Jacob has killed people (or rather, made other people kill each other) for less than "good" purposes. Esau has definitely done so. I don't think Jacob has done anything malicious, but I'm not a walking LOST encyclopedia...

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

This makes me wonder if Jacob has killed people (or rather, made other people kill each other) for less than "good" purposes. Esau has definitely done so. I don't think Jacob has done anything malicious, but I'm not a walking LOST encyclopedia...

It wouldn't suprise me. We know his followers have used violence in his cause.