Lost!

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Looking at the list of names on Lostpedia (not sure if all of the lighthouse names have made it up there yet...actually I know they haven't because Wallace at 108 isn't listed_ a couple observations:

1. Miles is alive, but his name is crossed out. Last we saw Rose, she was alive and her name is crossed out, though we don't know what happened to her and Bernard after the bomb/flash. Claire's name is also crossed out, questionable whether she should be counted as "alive"

2. Kate is the only name that isn't crossed out that has a number that isn't one of The Numbers.

Not sure if the crossed out means alive or dead, instead I am thinking it's candidate vs. not candidate.

I'm racking my brain, I forget how Jack learned that Claire's his sister.

I think he found the name and staked out the house in Australia. Or Christian told him on the island. I know it sounds like I am randomly thinking of things but those two stick out in my mind.

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It was established last week, or the week before that MIB has taken Locke's shape. [blanking on her name] said he couldn't change shape now.

Rampant speculation was super fun the first 5 seasons. They are answering questions (more than they are tossing up new ones) and to start speculating on the answers they are giving us is going to provide a never-ending story. Established canon (answered questions) is canon no matter how much fanon wants to be something else.

[JWBear]

They answered where the numbers come from. Cool.

Soooo.... Any bets on who David's mother is?

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by JWBear

They answered where the numbers come from. Cool.

Soooo.... Any bets on who David's mother is?

Kate is a criminal on the run and wouldn't have a house
Claire is his sister
He doesn't seem to have any ethnic traits so I am guessing Sun, Rose and Anna Lucia are out.


That leaves Juliet, Shannon and Danielle. I'll guess Danielle.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Could be his wife from his original life.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Could be his wife from his original life.

It's LOST!, it can't be that simple

[bewitched]

Well, it's not tomorrow, but since "spoilering" (if not speculation) is rampant...

Who the f is "Wallace"? (At 108*, the point Hurley was told to turn the wheel to.) Speaking of which...Lighthouse wheel/Donkey wheel; how are they related?

Cave= dark= MIB
Lighthouse= light= Jacob
(I just KNOW it's not going to be that cut and dry)

Christian and MIB are not one and the same. Claire said she was hanging with her father and a "friend"-- friend=NotLocke. So, who (or what) the hell is Christian?

I read on another board that "Littleton" was on the lighthouse list...I didn't see it myself though.

"Linus" was crossed out. (Did anyone catch the #?)

Question for anyone who remembers from a few seasons ago:

Ben had a list of survivors; was it a list just of the kids, or of "candidates"? I wonder where he got said list because he thought he had been interacting with Jacob the whole time when I think it's somewhat clear that he had actually been being guided by MIB all along which brings up another thought...

Jacob said it was too late for the people still at the temple because someone (something?) bad was coming (to the temple); which leads one to wonder if Miles will be around (or eligible) for much longer (possibly why his name is crossed out). Everyone assumes the temple is Jacob's domain but is it really MIB's instead (after all, Smokey dwelt there at some point)?


And maybe I'm just contrary but I have to say that a big part of the fun of Lost (even in this last season) is continuing speculation on what it all means, including whether or not what we've been told (or led to believe) is the truth is, in fact, such. But that's me.

[bewitched]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Kate is a criminal on the run and wouldn't have a house
Claire is his sister
He doesn't seem to have any ethnic traits so I am guessing Sun, Rose and Anna Lucia are out.


That leaves Juliet, Shannon and Danielle. I'll guess Danielle.

Danielle's too old.

There's Libby, Penelope, Ilana (my personal choice based on David's coloring and her connection with Jacob), Charlotte, Nikki, hmmm...it seems like I'm still missing a couple....

[bewitched]

I think there's been a lot of speculation about one of the overriding themes of the show being free will vs destiny. Jack has always done what "needed" to be done; what he "should" do. What if he is offered the world (or the island, as the case may be), and he chooses not to take it? It has certainly been hinted that he is the chosen one.


(I'd really like to hear Alex's ruminations on how/whether free will plays into any of this.)

[bewitched]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I'm racking my brain, I forget how Jack learned that Claire's his sister.

It was at Christian Shepard's funeral (Claire's mother told Jack she'd lost her daughter on flight 815).

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by bewitched

Christian and MIB are not one and the same. Claire said she was hanging with her father and a "friend"-- friend=NotLocke. So, who (or what) the hell is Christian?

But she was clearly aware that, while he looks like Locke, he's not Locke. So I don't think it rules out, and I think it remains by far most likely, that Christian is MIB/Smokey and she's just on board with the shape-shifting. Especially since MIB-as-Locke didn't exist for most of the 3 years she said she spent with "her friend".

Linus was 117. Forgot to add him to the alive-and-crossed out list.

And maybe I'm just contrary but I have to say that a big part of the fun of Lost (even in this last season) is continuing speculation on what it all means, including whether or not what we've been told (or led to believe) is the truth is, in fact, such. But that's me.

Surely, but at some point the "throw absolutely everything at the wall and see what sticks" becomes overkill. Sure, the CIA could be giving mind controlling drugs to the Loch Ness Monster who is actually a diplomatic emissary from the race of aliens that crashed in Roswell and that actually created the island to amuse their child-king, and that absolutely nothing we've been shown for the last 6 seasons ever actually happened in the character's universe. But that would seem to have made creating 6 seasons of show that showed something completely different a pointless exercise for the producers.

There are already plenty of mysteries on the table. For instance, what exactly are "candidates" and what does "replacing Jacob" mean? What are Jacob and MIB, why are they so interested in candidates. Why are these people we've been following candidates, and how do the concepts of free will vs. destiny come into play? That's a TON to think and speculate about without further assuming that the little we do no is simply wrong. Actually, I find it far more interesting to assume everything is true, just true in a way that we don't yet understand. So when they show the name "Shephard", associated with one of the #'s that Jack has been dealing with, and then immediately show Jack, speculating that somehow the name might refer to some other people that aren't even named Shepherd...just seems an unnecessary distraction.

Of course, then there's the whole MIB-out-of-nowhere crap. I still call b.s. on that, so maybe the Locke Ness monster isn't far behind, what do I know.