Cannabis for California

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

So while their original crime will be wiped out, they will still be required to serve sentence for the crime of not paying.

I know what you're saying, and logically it makes sense. However if they weren't arrested to begin with then they wouldn't be in jail for a bail violation.

Originally Posted by Alex

Yes, theoretically it would be a commercial enterprise (though it also legalizes growing for personal use up to certain limits. But because of limits related to commercial operations I doubt you'll see it in your corner convenience store but rather still pretty much limited to pot-only outlets. One of the rules in there is that any business licensed to sell pot can not employ anybody under the age of 21. So either that will keep a lot of business away from selling pot or it will cut off a lot of entry level employment to young adults. It also does not change, so far as I can see, the criminal punishments for selling pot if it is to a minor, which are much harsher than selling alcohol or cigarettes so I doubt many businesses would take the risk.

You can't sell alcohol if you are under 18. You probably wouldn't be able to pick up a pack of Camel Mary Jaynes at the local 7-11 but I suspect some smaller liquor stores and smoke shops would sell it.

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

But it's still gonna happen.

Like it doesn't already. Disneyland, concerts, the beach, the park, blah blah blah. People already smoke pot in public, they just do it discretely.

[Disneyphile]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

People already smoke pot in public, they just do it discretely.

Or, not so discretely, like at my school. I smell pot 3-4 times a day around campus.

It's never made me even remotely loopy though.

I have more complaints about the amount of cigarette smokers on campus though (they don't have designated areas at OCC). I can barely walk anywhere without gagging on that crap.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

You can't sell alcohol if you are under 18. You probably wouldn't be able to pick up a pack of Camel Mary Jaynes at the local 7-11 but I suspect some smaller liquor stores and smoke shops would sell it.

That's not quite right, you can sell alcohol in convenience stores (for example) if you're under 18 so long as your under direct supervision of someone over 21. And you can certainly hire people under 18 even if they aren't going to be the one selling it.

The language in the marijuana initiative doesn't just bar under 21 from ever selling the stuff it bars anybody under 21 from being employed by an establishment licensed to sell the stuff. So you can't hire a high school kid to come sweep floors in the morning or stock shelves or whatever.

Originally Posted by From the initiative text

age limits and controls to ensure that all persons present in, employed by, or in any way involved in the operation of, any such licensed premises are 21 or older;

I've no doubt that some small establishments would be ok with such a restriction but I think it will either be rule that keeps mixed use pot selling establishments at the fringe or, if it is widespread will cut off a lot of employment opportunities to young adults.