Lost!

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Answers, yet strangely unsatisfying.

Not enough answers... <sigh>

[innerSpaceman]

W.E.A.K.

[BarTopDancer]

Judging FB and Twitter reaction I'll be alone, or close to.

Loved.

We found out:

Spoiler:

That Easu was really Smoky and how he became Smoky
Easu and Not!CJCraigg are Adam and Eve
Where the donkey wheel and light came from
What the island is holding - the light (good/evil?) and if it goes out on the island then it goes out everywhere

The kids playing Jacob and Easu were awesome.

The more I think about it, I think the island, being a cork is really the lid to Pandora's Box. So, if the season started with the island under water then does that mean all hell has broken loose?

[innerSpaceman]

Aside from one of those items, not a single thing on your list, BTD, was discovered during that episode. They were depicted, not discovered. We found out nothing ABOUT anything, except that it came to be. Well, d'uh.

And, as per usual this season, the stuff I WANT to know about Jacob and his other half are happening off-screen, right about ... now ... if the episode were to have kept going at that pace of biography. FEH! I'm sick of a season where it's constantly hinted that the BEST stuff is not being shown!!!


That episode was a completely wasted opportunity. And as someone has already pointed out to me, there's not enough time left to fix it.


I have a sinking feeling that I was right during Season 1 - - there's really no there there. It's just a bunch of cool stuff, vaguely defined, and will end with a putter instead of a bang.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Not enough answers... <sigh>

Sure there were.........

We found out where the smoke monster comes from>>>>>a cave of light

We found out who the ghost boys Unlocke has been encountering are>>>>>>Jacob and his unamed brother

We found out where the cave bodies and black and white rocks came from>>>>>an unamed boy and his mother

We found out why Jacob is on the Island>>>>>>to protect the magic cave of light

You know, if I asked my son a question and he gave me answers like this he would be grounded for a month

Two more weeks of being jerked around to go

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Aside from one of those items, not a single thing on your list, BTD, was discovered during that episode. They were depicted, not discovered. We found out nothing ABOUT anything, except that it came to be. Well, d'uh.

We found out why the stuff is the way it is. I'm a sucker for how stuff works and the revelations we are getting are making me happy.

We found out

Spoiler:

who Adam and Eve were

. How many times was that questions asked? Answered! FINALLY!

We found out where

Spoiler:

the donkey wheel and light came from

. How many people went WTF was that and where did it come from? Answered! Finally!

We found out where

Spoiler:

Smoky developed from

. Now how, but where. How should be answered when they expand on

Spoiler:

the light

And yes, I am using spoilers until tomorrow for the random people who drop in without thinking.

I think GD said that no one is going to be 100% happy with the answers we are going to get and there is no way in hell they are going to appease everyone. I may hate how it ends, but right now I'm happy with what I am getting. This has been a long, crazy, sometimes depressing but mostly fun ride and unlike the roller coaster at State Line, I'm going to enjoy this until the end.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I...........agree with iSm.

Total non-op of an episode. Y'all know I'm not one to beg for answers. All I ask is that the episode gives me a new, interesting way to think about what I've seen before. This did not. At the end of the episode everything was in exactly the same form of vaguery as when it started. I mean, "Ooooh, the donkey wheel, umm, turns, and ummmmmm, stuff happens, and then, errrr, someone can leave the island." Wow, I didn't know THAT before!

I may not be demanding answers, but I definitely do not want nothing disguised as answers.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

We found out where

Spoiler:

the donkey wheel and light came from

. How many people went WTF was that and where did it come from? Answered! Finally!

Ummm, could you tell me the answer then? (I know I mentioned this in my post before, but I wrote that before you posted). Because as far as I can tell, before the episode we knew, "The donkey wheel turns, does something that involves a bright light, and someone gets off the island." After the episode we know, "The donkey wheel turns, does something that involves a bright light, and someone gets off the island."

The answer for where the smoke monster came from? Island magic! Why are some people immortal? Island magic! Why is it impossible for smokey to kill Jacob? Because mom said so! Nothing (other than Adam and Eve) was an answer, we're still left with the exact same questions.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Ummm, could you tell me the answer then? (I know I mentioned this in my post before, but I wrote that before you posted).

It was built not by Ben/Dharma/Others but by 'brother'. Instead of asking why Dharma was building it, we found out that the OP (original people) built it.

The answer for where the smoke monster came from? Island magic! Why are some people immortal? Island magic! Why is it impossible for smokey to kill Jacob? Because mom said so! Nothing (other than Adam and Eve) was an answer, we're still left with the exact same questions.

We don't know that the light is island magic, nor do we know that is why they are immortal. Not!CJ was immortal, passed the torch to Jacob who is immortal. I'm starting to think Desmond had the torch passed to him too.

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When the button was no longer pushed and the sky turned purple we learned it was due to the EM activity. The EM activity is related to the light, somehow.
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When we saw Dharmaville the day 815 crashed there were snippets online of Smoky being up by the plane. Was he bringing it down or trying to tag along for the ride? (ya, I know. A question I just thought of).
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I'm choosing to be optimistic about the rest of this show. Do I think was the best episode ever? No. But I loved it and felt that I gained knowledge to the island, Jacob and brother.

I refuse to think I wasted 6 years of my life for no answers. They have to wrap it up and explain where they are, what the island is. I just hope they wrap it up without leaving it open for a movie.

[Ghoulish Delight]

They "answered" those questions in only the absolute most superficial way possible. Instead of "Jacob's protecting the island and the mysterious magnetic energy it emanates," it's now, "Jacob's protecting the island and the mysterious light energy it emanates." Instead of "Jacob somehow became the protector of the island and will do anything to protect it," it's "Jacob's 'mom' somehow became the protector of the island and will do anything to protect it." The episode did nothing to either answer the underlying questions behind any of it, nor even ask any new interesting questions. It just slightly altered the nitpicky details of the questions, leaving the same overall view of what's going on.

I didn't say I'm giving up on the show or that this episode makes me any more or less worried about the ending. But this episode did nothing to move the story in anything more than trivial ways.