The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 597

scaeagles · 05-19-2010, 05:33 PM

I actually think that's fine. If LA is so committed to this break off all contracts with AZ thing, they should at least be consistent. Unless it isn't a matter of principle at all. It goes both ways. LA makes and effort to hurt AZ in protest, why shouldn't AZ make an effort to do the same to LA to protest their protest? Why is one OK but the other isn't?

Alex · 05-19-2010, 05:35 PM

He has a point, if LA wants to boycott, only doing the more symbolic stuff is kind of a pussy way out.

Apparently LA is not actually boycotting Arizona, they're just getting rid of some of the fluff.

But if they go ahead and cut off the power (they won't) it would make for a great new PR angle for the AZ immigration law. They could then call it an energy reform law. By trimming LA's electricity use by 25% they'll have done more for the environment than the Audobon Society.

Ghoulish Delight · 05-19-2010, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

He has a point, if LA wants to boycott, only doing the more symbolic stuff is kind of a pussy way out.

This may have been spin, but from what I understood there wasn't much more that the council had the legal authority to do.

Alex · 05-19-2010, 06:52 PM

That may be, but then the appropriate response (it seems to me) would now be "we'd like to thank the kind gentleman from Arizona for helping us out of a commitment we didn't have the actual authority to end. Now, about the water..."

Ghoulish Delight · 05-28-2010, 05:41 PM

I've read over the details of the Sestak thing a half dozen times and I can't for the life of me parse out what's supposed to be so wrong about what was offered.

alphabassettgrrl · 05-28-2010, 06:10 PM

The only thing I can figure is that it was the White House seeming to interfere in an election.

I figure he was free to turn down the post, and nothing changes. It's not like they threatened him, just gave him an offer of a job.

Ghoulish Delight · 05-28-2010, 08:01 PM

Not even a job. An unpaid position on an advisory panel. It was, "Hey, we think the party would be better served with you in this position over here rather than in the Senate. Take it or leave it." Big effing deal.

BarTopDancer · 05-28-2010, 08:04 PM

There's nothing on LoT about the House voting to repeal DADT?

Ghoulish Delight · 05-28-2010, 08:08 PM

Gay thread.

Ghoulish Delight · 05-28-2010, 08:10 PM

Keep in mind, even if this makes it all the way through, it still doesn't actually repeal anything. It remains in limbo until the President and military say they're ready.

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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I actually think that's fine. If LA is so committed to this break off all contracts with AZ thing, they should at least be consistent. Unless it isn't a matter of principle at all. It goes both ways. LA makes and effort to hurt AZ in protest, why shouldn't AZ make an effort to do the same to LA to protest their protest? Why is one OK but the other isn't?
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05-19-2010, 05:35 PM	#5962
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	He has a point, if LA wants to boycott, only doing the more symbolic stuff is kind of a pussy way out. Apparently LA is not actually boycotting Arizona, they're just getting rid of some of the fluff. But if they go ahead and cut off the power (they won't) it would make for a great new PR angle for the AZ immigration law. They could then call it an energy reform law. By trimming LA's electricity use by 25% they'll have done more for the environment than the Audobon Society.
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05-19-2010, 06:52 PM	#5964
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	That may be, but then the appropriate response (it seems to me) would now be "we'd like to thank the kind gentleman from Arizona for helping us out of a commitment we didn't have the actual authority to end. Now, about the water..."
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I've read over the details of the Sestak thing a half dozen times and I can't for the life of me parse out what's supposed to be so wrong about what was offered. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	The only thing I can figure is that it was the White House seeming to interfere in an election. I figure he was free to turn down the post, and nothing changes. It's not like they threatened him, just gave him an offer of a job. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Not even a job. An unpaid position on an advisory panel. It was, "Hey, we think the party would be better served with you in this position over here rather than in the Senate. Take it or leave it." Big effing deal. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Gay thread. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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05-28-2010, 08:10 PM	#5970
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Keep in mind, even if this makes it all the way through, it still doesn't actually repeal anything. It remains in limbo until the President and military say they're ready. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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