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Not Afraid · 06-25-2010, 04:11 PM

Define Pop Culture. I don't think it's a term that can be CLEARLY defined.

And, maybe a Mod should move this discussion into it's own thread.

Kevy Baby · 06-25-2010, 04:55 PM

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My response was that, if they didn't know the TomTom Club, Tina Weymouth, Chris Franz and the Talking Heads connection I should be the one with the look of disbelief on my face.

Are you implying that their lack of knowledge of the artists you mention is somehow more important than your lack of knowledge of BBD? I don't understand that. Sure, I would probably agree that your choice has more taste/musical talent, but that doesn't lessen someone's own personal choice.

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When I was told this was "so and so" doing this song I said "never heard of her". They tried further clarifying by saying that the woman was in "BellBivDevo" (or whoever it is correctly spelled).

To further your musical education, the group is Bell Biv DeVoe, made up of Ricky Bell, Michael Bivins, and Ronnie DeVoe - all previously in New Edition (the group that Bobby Brown was originally in). While I wasn't into their music (though I did play at at the club I worked at), they actually had some singing talent.

Not that I expect you to rush out to buy their records any time soon

Not Afraid · 06-25-2010, 05:15 PM

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Are you implying that their lack of knowledge of the artists you mention is somehow more important than your lack of knowledge of BBD? I don't understand that. Sure, I would probably agree that your choice has more taste/musical talent, but that doesn't lessen someone's own personal choice.

Well, i do think I have better taste in music, but that isn't why I said that. My response comes from the fact that music is often sampled without the original source being credited or know about in any way. It's a pet irritation of mine. (Wanna see me go ballistic? Play a TomTom Club song and have someone say they stole the music from BelBivDeVoe.)

Gemini Cricket · 06-25-2010, 05:41 PM

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BelBivDeVoe

I guess I never, ever thought I'd see NA type the name of this group.
Like ever!

Kevy Baby · 06-25-2010, 06:20 PM

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Well, i do think I have better taste in music, but that isn't why I said that.

While you have confirmed that you didn't say what I was worried you were saying (long story), can anyone truly have better taste than someone else (in any given topic, but we can focus on music for now)? When you get down to it, it is all about opinion and no one's opinion isn't any more or less valid than another person's. Yes, I believe that the T-Heads, et. al. are better than BBD, but that is simply based on what I enjoy. One could argue that the T-Heads have more complex rhythms, interesting lyrics, and blend styles/influences into a more original sound than BBD, but who is to say that these factors make music better? Yes, you and I do (and many others), but there are some people who have heard the T-Heads and decided that they prefer the sound of BBD - that to them, BBD is better. Sure my opinion differs from theirs and I could make all sorts of logical arguments as to why my opinion was "more right", but ultimately, the enjoyment of art is up to the individual.

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My response comes from the fact that music is often sampled without the original source being credited or know about in any way. It's a pet irritation of mine. (Wanna see me go ballistic? Play a TomTom Club song and have someone say they stole the music from BelBivDeVoe.)

For the most part, I don't have any issue with sampling. A situation that you describe above doesn't irritate me, it just me the amusing opportunity to point out what an idiot the person is. I get amusement from belittling others who deserve it.

Alex · 06-25-2010, 06:26 PM

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can anyone truly have better taste than someone else

I vote yes. My taste in music is clearly superior to everybody else's.

I know a person who thinks that honestly thinks that the first Jackass movie is one of the greatest cinematic achievements of all time. That person is objectively wrong.

Not Afraid · 06-25-2010, 09:35 PM

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While you have confirmed that you didn't say what I was worried you were saying (long story), can anyone truly have better taste than someone else (in any given topic, but we can focus on music for now)? When you get down to it, it is all about opinion and no one's opinion isn't any more or less valid than another person's.

I disagree. Just like in fashion, there is good taste and no taste or just bad taste. It doesn't have to do with a statement such as "if you like the Talking Heads, you have good taste, and if you don't, you have terrible taste" but more to do with the breadth of music knowledge and the ability to see what is just simply awful music. I'm not saying that I have the ultimate taste in music because there are plenty of people who have a broad range of music knowledge and have explored a lot of genres and prefer completely different music than I do.

As with fashion or art, I appreciate people MORE when they have a decent knowledge of the art form. If they have that and continue to prefer schlocky crap, well, maybe they just have no taste.

RStar · 06-26-2010, 08:14 PM

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I disagree. Just like in fashion, there is good taste and no taste or just bad taste. It doesn't have to do with a statement such as "if you like the Talking Heads, you have good taste, and if you don't, you have terrible taste" but more to do with the breadth of music knowledge and the ability to see what is just simply awful music. I'm not saying that I have the ultimate taste in music because there are plenty of people who have a broad range of music knowledge and have explored a lot of genres and prefer completely different music than I do.

As with fashion or art, I appreciate people MORE when they have a decent knowledge of the art form. If they have that and continue to prefer schlocky crap, well, maybe they just have no taste.

I think clowns taste funny. So there....

Kevy Baby · 06-25-2010, 04:58 PM

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And, maybe a Mod should move this discussion into it's own thread.

Maybe eventually we will will kill the topic and which would earn it a place in this thread

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