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Old 07-23-2010, 06:47 PM   #7361
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It was the combination of the 3 (standing in lanes, on a phone, back to traffic), demonstrating a general lack of attention to what was going on around him, thus making him a greater hazard than another slow-moving individual.
Still not seeing how an inattentive person standing still is a greater hazard that an inattentive person jogging. And even if it is, how increasing the risks of injury all around is at all an acceptable response. Presumably it wouldn't be a justified dick move to tailgate six inches off the bumper of a driver you notice is driving 50mph instead of 65mph because he's on the phone.
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Old 07-23-2010, 06:48 PM   #7362
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Don't you hate it when you want to buy a gift card but you can only get values of $25 or $50, but what you really want to buy is in between? Grrr. I mean, hello, $25 doesn't buy you much at all these days.
So give cash. It's better anyway.
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:12 PM   #7363
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Alex: a person standing has the potential to suddenly move in any direction, whereas a person already moving in a particular direction is likely to continue on that route or within 180 degrees of such.
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:27 PM   #7364
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Good point, Morri.

I think it was cool. Er, okay. I mean, he didn't hit him with a stick.

Maybe next time he'll be careful. To crash on a bike is quite painful. To be hit by a bike?
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:28 PM   #7365
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Don't you hate it when you want to buy a gift card but you can only get values of $25 or $50, but what you really want to buy is in between? Grrr. I mean, hello, $25 doesn't buy you much at all these days.
I like when you can name your own value, because then I will make it something like $32.29. Even amounts are so boring.
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:43 PM   #7366
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:22 PM   #7367
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Alex: a person standing has the potential to suddenly move in any direction, whereas a person already moving in a particular direction is likely to continue on that route or within 180 degrees of such.
And a person standing still talking on the phone is likely to suddenly sprint in a random direction? Not really any more likely and not really any more of a problem if you're giving them as much room as you should and maybe a bit more because you can tell they're not paying attention. When you see a bad/distracted driver do you do what you can to harass them or give them extra space?

And if you're strafing them close enough to almost clip them then, a single exuberant hand motion is enough to cause trouble for either of them.

Regardless, the point to me is that GD intentionally increased the risk of a situation simply because he was annoyed by the action of another person on the path/road and that, to me, is just another version of stupid road rage we'd otherwise generally condemn. If I started pretending to lunge in front of cyclists I see doing stupid stuff (and on the streets of San Francisco I certainly see a lot of that) because they deserve the scare--regardless of the risk of injury I'm creating--would that be ok because they were being stupid?

I guess my point is that I agree with GD. What he did was a dick move. And I'll even concede that the pedestrian deserved a dick move. I just don't go along with giving a grinning thumb's up that because someone deserved a dick move, he was accommodated.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:42 PM   #7368
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I'm not justifying, I'm just answering your question about why a standing distracted person is more dangerous than a walking one.
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:35 PM   #7369
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I just don't go along with giving a grinning thumb's up that because someone deserved a dick move, he was accommodated.
Why not? You got me scratching my head here.
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:43 PM   #7370
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Thanks, guys!

GC- I hope you're feeling better soon!

I Only got 2 hours sleep and then 7 phone calls. Went back to the hospital, wifey had an elcetrocardiogram, and more blood tests. The tests(for all the results we hear about through the nurses) have been pretty good. She will get a stress test tomorrow, so she will still be in the hospital at least until then.

I had 3 picnic tickets to World of Color tonight that I didn't get to go to. Bummer, I was looking forward to seeing it as I haven't been able to go yet.

I'm going to get some sleep now.

I'm so sick of hanging out at hospitals.....
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