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Old 10-13-2010, 12:16 PM   #681
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Take all this Teabagger stuff out of the gay thread, huh?







They can be Tea Partiers in the political thread if you like, but not here.
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Old 10-13-2010, 12:47 PM   #682
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Question that may clarify for me your view.

Do you view the Tea Party movement as it currently exists as the same thing as the Tea Party movement that started with the Ron Paul candidacy?

I'd argue that the latter is essentially distinct at this point from the Tea Party movement re-inspired by Rick Santelli and other folks in specific response to Obama's economic stimulus and mortgage bailout plans (including many folk who had been strangely silent when faced with Bush's somewhat similar plans).
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Old 10-13-2010, 12:51 PM   #683
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Didn't see the last post by ISM, it was on a different page. If scaeagles wants to answer int he politics thread I'll follow there.
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:17 PM   #684
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I don't know if it's the drugs or me getting older or what but I'm not all that upset.

I can't sit and wait for the country's leaders to shift their thinking and get on board with LGBT rights. I can write letters, be a 'role model' for other gay guys wanting to come out and I can attend the odd protest or two BUT my happiness and my destiny is in my hands.

The best revenge on the close-minded politicians, churches and haters out there is to be happy. And that's what I'm striving for. If I focus on what's bad, that's all I'll get - bad news. I'm trying hard to find the good that's happening. I'm delighted in our court system right now. I'm loving the DADT ruling that came forth. I'm happy that PropH8 was found unconstitutional. I'm ecstatic that I have been talking to a wonderful man the past two months who is moving to O`ahu finally. I'm onstage making people laugh. I got a call this morning from someone who called the show 'joyful'. That's a big deal for me.

I look at these candidates running for office, these church leaders all red-faced and loud, these talking heads on cable news, even many of these gay rights advocates, and all I see is anger and misery. I've had enough of anger and misery.

Yes, I'm disappointed in our president when it comes to gay issues but I'm also aware that he has done great things for our country so far. In fact, I just read a Rolling Stone article that I mostly agree with. It's not all bad.
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Old 10-13-2010, 02:31 PM   #685
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That is a good point, no denying that.

However, I still maintain that if the Republicans were fiscally responsible there would be no tea party movement. The tea partiers would be at republican rallies holding up anti-Obama signs rather than tea party rallies doing the same.
I disagree. My observation is that they were anti-Obama and anti-Democrat in the begining, and only became anti-establisment Republican later.
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Old 10-13-2010, 06:36 PM   #686
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And Alex, you or anyone is free to discuss the Tea Baggers here, but you must call them Tea Baggers while in this particular thread. That's the rule.
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Here's more proof about what I was saying earlier about Dear Leader:

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During a rally in Boston yesterday, a group of gay rights activists and AIDS research supporters interrupted a speech from President Obama while he was stumping for Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick. Reportedly chants included "Mr. President, stop the bigotry! Support marriage equality!," "Do you also oppose Atheist Marriage?," and "Would
you want a Civil Union?"

Mediaite reports on the incident, which seemed to noticeably agitate the president:

"The President appeared uncharacteristically upset as, mid-sentence, a group of folks in the crowd began to loudly object to his speech as he described the work his administration had done for AIDS research. As the crowd turned their heads up to look at the hecklers, President Obama followed as well, and modified his speech for them, menacingly pointing his finger up at them as he warned that a Republican leadership would be extremely destructive to their cause. After raising his voice mid-sentence in response to them, President Obama continued: “One of the great things about being a Democrat is, we like arguing with each other. But to the folks concerned about AIDS funding, I would say ‘take a look at what the Republican leadership has to say about AIDS funding.’”
And again, there's that rhetoric -- hey, you think I'm bad, look at what the other guy would have done!!!!

Ummmmmm how about having good policies and ethics yourself! The other guy wasn't elected, YOU were elected. So grow a fvcking spine.

Now, what's doubly stupid about the above response by Obama is that one of the very few things Georgie W. Bush did well was ..... AIDS FUNDING.
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Old 10-17-2010, 12:40 PM   #689
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Jon Stewart took the Dem Party Chairman to task a few weeks back for their stated midterm election campaign strategy, which was - in essence - We Suck Less Than The Republicans.


Sheesh.
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I'm beginning to think we need a benevolent dictator.
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