The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

How so, JW? What is it that she would do? I would guess the two primary things on everyones mind would be her stance on abortion, same sex marriage, and teaching creationism.

Abortion is opposed by many non religious people as well. It's a 50-50 split in most polls. Same sex marriage is something like 60-40 against and even in CA there were votes that showed opposition to it. Creationism...OK. Maybe you have something there, but I fail to see how that's a huge threat unless you are talking some sort of slippery slope argument, and I make those all the time, so I'm OK with them.

Typically what the division on the meaning of separation of church and state comes down to what is viewed as hostility toward religion, Christianity in particular. I think there are some extreme examples of it. They don't want to be threatened that professing as a tenet of their faith that homosexual conduct is sinful is hate speech. They don't understand why groups want crosses taken out of Arlington. Any number of things. And I do believe it scares them. While I'm sure that there are groups that would like the Bible taught as...uh...gospel in the public school, I think those are quite a huge minority.

The fear is that to many, freedom of religion is becoming freedom from religion. While no one is forced to worship, nor should they be, no one should be forced to NOT worship or think as they please.

I also do not think that the protests against Mosques have as much to do with Islam as is it opposed to radical Islamists. If CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) and the Saudis and bin Laden and whomever were willing to all denounce radical Islam, much of this fear would subside and i think the vast majority of protests would stop.

Wow... Just... Wow. Where do I start?

People like O'Donnel want to impose their narrow version of Christianity on the entire nation, and outlaw everything else. They want it to be law. It's not just their opposition to abortion, homosexuality, and science. They want us all to live under a fundamentalist Christian sharia law.

While it is true that some non-religious people oppose abortion, many religious people support a woman’s right to chose.

You are absolutely wrong about the support for same-sex marriage. The current polls show about 60% support for it. And as for “votes that showed opposition to it’… there are still people in this country that would vote to outlaw interracial marriage; deny minorities and women the right to vote; and, I would be willing to bet, reinstate slavery. So what?

Forcing creationism to be taught in public schools is a threat. It threatens the scientific and rational growth of this country. It is also a slap in the face to every non-Christian and every free thinking Christian child it is force fed too.

I have to finish this now, because I need to go. I’ll address your paragraph on the separation of church and state later.