The Gay Thread - Page 71

Betty · 10-19-2010, 03:14 PM

I'm wearing purple today though... does that mean I don't support suicide?

innerSpaceman · 10-21-2010, 04:52 PM

Valerie Jarrett vs. Dan Choi on the Obama Administration's hard-ball appeal tactics reversing an injunction against enforcement of Don't Ask Don't Tell.

Wow, outright LIES by Ms. Jarrett. Obama has NEVER said he believes DADT is "unconstitutional," and that's a legal position his Justice department is perfectly able to take in relation to appealing or not appealing the law which they already defended and lost. The "defense" of laws on the books stage is over. She's a liar about everything, and frankly Wolf is a pussy of an interviewer who either knows zip about Justice Dept. appeals or purposefully played softball.

Not only does the President have wide latitude to refuse to appeal when he personally feels a law is unconstitutional, but he also has wide latitude when it comes to laws affecting his authority as commander in chief. The problem is he does NOT think the law is unconstitutional (and has never said those words) and has refused for 2 years now to use any of his powers as commander in chief on this issue.

Lie after lie after lie. What a shameful performance. Nice going, losing a core constituency for your reelection bid in 2 years, Mr. President. Dan Choi's is hardly the only gay vote you've lost. Oh, and I'm sure you've appeased plenty of Republicans and Teabaggers by your homophobic actions. They'll be voting for you in droves now, won't they? Sheesh.

Gn2Dlnd · 10-21-2010, 06:34 PM

"Ted Haggard Is Completely Heterosexual" by Roy Zimmerman

It's a little past (or "passed," thank you very much Missus Thomas) its use-by date, but completely worth it.

Chernabog · 10-22-2010, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMFcsTRWH7I&feature=player_embedded#!]Lie after lie after lie. What a shameful performance. Nice going, losing a core constituency for your reelection bid in 2 years, Mr. President. Dan Choi's is hardly the only gay vote you've lost. Oh, and I'm sure you've appeased plenty of Republicans and Teabaggers by your homophobic actions. They'll be voting for you in droves now, won't they? Sheesh.

Unless we get whiplash from the way things turn around, I will not be surprised if Obama is a one-termer.

Not that I'm voting for Sarah Palin, mind you. But I am not voting for Obama either. And, frankly, the Dems deserve to be a$$raped in next month's elections.

innerSpaceman · 10-22-2010, 09:37 AM

.... with no lube.

JWBear · 10-22-2010, 10:18 AM

I think I've gotten to the point that I'll be actively campaigning for his primary challenger, whomever that might be.

Betty · 10-22-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chernabog

Unless we get whiplash from the way things turn around, I will not be surprised if Obama is a one-termer.

Not that I'm voting for Sarah Palin, mind you. But I am not voting for Obama either. And, frankly, the Dems deserve to be a$$raped in next month's elections.

If it came down to Obama vs Palin - who would you vote for?

innerSpaceman · 10-22-2010, 11:21 AM

It doesn't much matter. I'd decline to vote. But in California, it will go for Obama no matter what. So my protest vote can be a vote of conscience and not in any way be a vote for whomever the Republican candidate is.

He's not been a total failure as a president. He and the Congress have actually had a lot of successes and accomplishments, which they are beyond lame at communicating.

But he's an incredible disappointment to me as a progressive (even though he was always clearly a center/right moderate), and as a gay man he's been an affront to my very being, over and over and over and over. I could hardly loathe the man more if I were a teabagger.

Er, I mean a Tea Partier.

Silly me, I already am a teabagger.

Gemini Cricket · 10-22-2010, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betty

If it came down to Obama vs Palin - who would you vote for?

Despite not being a fan of Obama at this moment, I'd say I'd vote for him in 2012. To me, it would feel like not voting for him is a vote for Palin.

Cadaverous Pallor · 10-22-2010, 12:29 PM

If fvcking SARAH PALIN is elected PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I will be SO GODDAMNED PISSED at anyone who didn't vote, because I WILL move out of the country. No sh!t.

There is a precedent to defending the previous administration's laws. Obama wants his health care bill defended in the next administration (which WILL be attacked, guaranteed) so he is defending this. Even Bush defended the Family & Medical Leave Act that was a landmark Clinton victory.

If you think you are punishing democrats by not voting for them, remember that you have to put up with whoever gets into office. You want to cut off your nose to spite your face? It wasn't that long ago that we lived in Bush's America and yet it's forgotten already.

I know this issue hits very close to home for all of you but take a second to think what those conservatives think about you...and how happy you are making them right now. If Dems lose, you lose even more. Isn't that blatantly obvious??

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10-21-2010, 04:52 PM	#702
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Valerie Jarrett vs. Dan Choi on the Obama Administration's hard-ball appeal tactics reversing an injunction against enforcement of Don't Ask Don't Tell. Wow, outright LIES by Ms. Jarrett. Obama has NEVER said he believes DADT is "unconstitutional," and that's a legal position his Justice department is perfectly able to take in relation to appealing or not appealing the law which they already defended and lost. The "defense" of laws on the books stage is over. She's a liar about everything, and frankly Wolf is a pussy of an interviewer who either knows zip about Justice Dept. appeals or purposefully played softball. Not only does the President have wide latitude to refuse to appeal when he personally feels a law is unconstitutional, but he also has wide latitude when it comes to laws affecting his authority as commander in chief. The problem is he does NOT think the law is unconstitutional (and has never said those words) and has refused for 2 years now to use any of his powers as commander in chief on this issue. Lie after lie after lie. What a shameful performance. Nice going, losing a core constituency for your reelection bid in 2 years, Mr. President. Dan Choi's is hardly the only gay vote you've lost. Oh, and I'm sure you've appeased plenty of Republicans and Teabaggers by your homophobic actions. They'll be voting for you in droves now, won't they? Sheesh.
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10-21-2010, 06:34 PM	#703
Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	"Ted Haggard Is Completely Heterosexual" by Roy Zimmerman It's a little past (or "passed," thank you very much Missus Thomas) its use-by date, but completely worth it. __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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10-22-2010, 09:37 AM	#705
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	.... with no lube.
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10-22-2010, 10:18 AM	#706
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	I think I've gotten to the point that I'll be actively campaigning for his primary challenger, whomever that might be. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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10-22-2010, 11:21 AM	#708
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	It doesn't much matter. I'd decline to vote. But in California, it will go for Obama no matter what. So my protest vote can be a vote of conscience and not in any way be a vote for whomever the Republican candidate is. He's not been a total failure as a president. He and the Congress have actually had a lot of successes and accomplishments, which they are beyond lame at communicating. But he's an incredible disappointment to me as a progressive (even though he was always clearly a center/right moderate), and as a gay man he's been an affront to my very being, over and over and over and over. I could hardly loathe the man more if I were a teabagger. Er, I mean a Tea Partier. Silly me, I already am a teabagger.
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10-22-2010, 12:29 PM	#710
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	If fvcking SARAH PALIN is elected PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I will be SO GODDAMNED PISSED at anyone who didn't vote, because I WILL move out of the country. No sh!t. There is a precedent to defending the previous administration's laws. Obama wants his health care bill defended in the next administration (which WILL be attacked, guaranteed) so he is defending this. Even Bush defended the Family & Medical Leave Act that was a landmark Clinton victory. If you think you are punishing democrats by not voting for them, remember that you have to put up with whoever gets into office. You want to cut off your nose to spite your face? It wasn't that long ago that we lived in Bush's America and yet it's forgotten already. I know this issue hits very close to home for all of you but take a second to think what those conservatives think about you...and how happy you are making them right now. If Dems lose, you lose even more. Isn't that blatantly obvious?? __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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