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Old 12-28-2010, 03:49 PM   #1
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I think the airlines who offer the service should supply and determine their own level of security. It would allow people to choose what service they'd like to use.
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Also - 9/11 taught us all something. Vigilante justice. I'm confident that anyone caught being remotely suspicious on a plane is going to be tackled and beat to a pulp by fellow passengers. I know I sure as hell wouldn't hesitate to launch myself at someone pulling a knife, match, etc. Because if I don't, I'll probably die anyway. The underwear guy last year was subdued by fellow passengers. Perfect way to deter anything.
Yep. We used to just let them do pretty much whatever they want, we'll sort it out later. We are no longer willing to do so, which makes me feel much safer than anything TSA has considered.

Besides, if they're truly looking for bomb materials, use dogs. Humans have not invented a machine that is as good as a dog. There is, however, less profit in using dogs than in these enormously expensive machines. Which I think explains a lot.
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:00 PM   #2
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There is, however, less profit in using dogs than in these enormously expensive machines. Which I think explains a lot.
Michael Chertoff - Former head of Homeland Security - Lobbyist for enormously expensive machines - Skeletor impersonator

Dogs at baggage x-ray and throughout airport, and quick interviews at all contact points, i.e., ticketing, baggage x-ray, check-in, boarding.
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Old 12-28-2010, 05:19 PM   #3
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Besides, if they're truly looking for bomb materials, use dogs.
And, dogs are more reliable in detecting an explosive shoved where the sun doesn't shine.

But, dogs also don't look as "secure". It's all about the appearance of "safety".
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:01 PM   #4
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If this isn't "too much", then what is? Where is the line? The notion that "if it saves even one life" it's worthwhile is so ridiculous, yet people keep saying it. Really? You're really okay with any policy as long as it *might* save a life? And does this only apply to air travel?

My biggest problem with the new procedures is still not being able to know what's legitimate and what isn't. How far down my pants are they allowed to stick their hands? Did that playboy model really trip the scanner or does someone just want to know whether "they" are real? Is that patdown of a six year old taking a long time because the kid is squirming or because the patter downer is a pervert? The TSA has made two things clear: they won't tell you what normal is and there are serious consequences for anyone who challenges their authority.
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:00 PM   #5
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Yes, as opposed to actual safety.

I'm not impressed by appearances. I'd rather deal with what's real.
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:47 PM   #6
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So I'm guessing he stripped down to underwear unnecessarily to be sure that he would be detained so he could sue them. I'm sure he thinks he's some amazingly bold rights activist.
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:05 PM   #8
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I'm not entirely sure SM posted that just for the story...
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:17 PM   #9
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Meh... he's pleasant looking but he's no Wally Szczerbiak.

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Old 03-15-2011, 03:20 PM   #10
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He should have had someone help him so he wouldn't write random letters backwards.

And if he was really dedicated to our constitution he's not have used the King James Abridged version but put the hole thing on there no matter how tired his hand got from all the writing:

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Of course, legal careers have been spent in the grey area created by the word "unreasonable."
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