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Old 11-24-2010, 01:15 PM   #41
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The point of terrorism is to change everyday lifestyles and invoke fear, so yes, they have.

Well, if that's their purpose then frankly I'm all in favor of it because I guess this means all of the terrorists will say "job well done" and move on.
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Old 11-24-2010, 01:19 PM   #42
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Old 11-24-2010, 01:22 PM   #43
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I think we should just have a general policy of saying that so long as the terrorism-related death rate is less than 0.001% (or whatever number) then current security measures are acceptable.

Quantify the level of acceptable risk and then accept that risk when it happens. That's the big problem I see behind all the stupid security. People say they're willing to accept a certain level of risk but then when the negative possibilities actually happen they end careers demanding to know why it wasn't prevented.
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If terrorists hijack and crash one plane per week
You would still be 2.7 times more likely to be killed crossing the street.
Exactly!

We suffer the deaths of children due to auto accidents(about 20,000 a decade between the ages of 2 - 14 in the United States alone) with barely a batting of an eye; sure, we pass seatbelt and child safety restraint laws and drinking laws and traffic safety corridors, etc......but when it comes right down to it no one is willing to do the one thing that would prevent nearly all of these deaths (cut all speed limits to one third). We find, as a society, that getting there in a third the time is worth the lives of 20,000 kids( not to mention the lives of another quarter million plus adults on top of that).
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Old 11-24-2010, 01:23 PM   #44
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But I do like watching the other side try to fight irrational fear with irrational fear (such as that the radiation will kill you or that with these rules in place soon TSA will be comprised 100% of pedophiles and frotteurists).
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I've become good friends with many TSA workers over the last six months, and all this situation is doing is putting extra stress on an already stressed group of people.

Operational rules at LAX are different from terminal to terminal, for instance.
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Old 11-24-2010, 02:32 PM   #46
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Eff that.Um, what?
I've never considered myself to be liberal. I'm actually pretty fiscally conservative (the real kind of fiscal conservative, not the fake Reagan-Bush "trickle down" kind). Socially, I'm progressive.

Just because I trust the Republican Party a whole hell of a lot less than the Democratic Party doesn't make me liberal.
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I've never considered myself to be liberal.
The mind boggles.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:15 PM   #48
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And in other news, the Pope doesn't really consider himself a "religious kind of guy"
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And in other news, the Pope doesn't really consider himself a "religious kind of guy"
I hold opinions that were once considered quite moderate. It's not my fault that the body politic has shifted dramatically to the right.

We live in a country where the democratic president is more conservative than some past republican presidents. If I am a liberal so was Eisenhower.

So go on attaching your own preconceived labels to me if it gives you jollies. I am what I am regardless of what you call me.
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So go on attaching your own preconceived labels to me if it gives you jollies. I am what I am regardless of what you call me.
How do you feel about spinach?
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