The Gay Thread

Alex · 04-09-2011, 09:10 AM

The exact same argument happened a year or two ago, prompted by pretty much the exact same thing. I imagine we'll all say pretty much the exact same things.

My (hopefully, I didn't go look for it) echo of myself:

I fail to see how shouting "you're gay!" at anybody who deviates from oddly defined gender norms has somehow become a sign of enlightened empathy as opposed to the ignorant conformism it really is.

Now, the kid may be gay. I have no idea. Maybe you have more information you haven't shared here (like he was wearing a "Nathan Lane speaks for me!" or "Daddy says it is ok that I like ****" pin). But you haven't shared any compelling information with the rest of us (well, not compelling information about the kid).

But I do wonder, is there an age when it is possible for a male to like flowers without it also meaning he is gay? Is every male florist in the world gay? Were all those retired bromeliad and orchid enthusiasts I used to have to deal with in Hawaii gay and after 75 years they just hadn't realized it yet? My great-grandfather put his roses in competition at the county fair every year. Is this, despite any other corroborating evidence, proof he was actually gay?

Also, I'm curious, is sexual orientation a matter of popular election. Does getting seven queens around a table to all pronounce that So-and-So is gay make them gay?

What if a male has "gay" interests as well as "straight" interests? Is it like being black back in the day? One rotten apple spoils the bunch so to speak and one gay behavior overwhelms all other straight behaviors? A boy who like flowers, muscle cars, football, lingerie models, and eating pussy is gay? Or is there a more complex calculus done? Honestly, I'm curious about the details of the burgeoning field of gayometrics.

Or how about we go back a dozen posts and state it thusly:

Bless you young mother. I hope you'll always be as supportive to your little boy when he strays from gender norms, even if proclaiming it loudly in a store for all to hear, and not try to force him back in that box.

Cadaverous Pallor · 04-09-2011, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Bless you young mother. I hope you'll always be as supportive to your little boy when he strays from gender norms, even if proclaiming it loudly in a store for all to hear, and not try to force him back in that box.

Duly quoted. All hail Alex!

04-09-2011, 09:10 AM	#1
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	The exact same argument happened a year or two ago, prompted by pretty much the exact same thing. I imagine we'll all say pretty much the exact same things. My (hopefully, I didn't go look for it) echo of myself: I fail to see how shouting "you're gay!" at anybody who deviates from oddly defined gender norms has somehow become a sign of enlightened empathy as opposed to the ignorant conformism it really is. Now, the kid may be gay. I have no idea. Maybe you have more information you haven't shared here (like he was wearing a "Nathan Lane speaks for me!" or "Daddy says it is ok that I like ****" pin). But you haven't shared any compelling information with the rest of us (well, not compelling information about the kid). But I do wonder, is there an age when it is possible for a male to like flowers without it also meaning he is gay? Is every male florist in the world gay? Were all those retired bromeliad and orchid enthusiasts I used to have to deal with in Hawaii gay and after 75 years they just hadn't realized it yet? My great-grandfather put his roses in competition at the county fair every year. Is this, despite any other corroborating evidence, proof he was actually gay? Also, I'm curious, is sexual orientation a matter of popular election. Does getting seven queens around a table to all pronounce that So-and-So is gay make them gay? What if a male has "gay" interests as well as "straight" interests? Is it like being black back in the day? One rotten apple spoils the bunch so to speak and one gay behavior overwhelms all other straight behaviors? A boy who like flowers, muscle cars, football, lingerie models, and eating pussy is gay? Or is there a more complex calculus done? Honestly, I'm curious about the details of the burgeoning field of gayometrics. Or how about we go back a dozen posts and state it thusly: Bless you young mother. I hope you'll always be as supportive to your little boy when he strays from gender norms, even if proclaiming it loudly in a store for all to hear, and not try to force him back in that box.
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