The Gay Thread - Page 110

Morrigoon · 05-03-2011, 04:37 PM

Yes, but if you call Mr. Kim "Slant-eyed", you can't really feign innocence when he is offended.

innerSpaceman · 05-03-2011, 05:28 PM

Wow, SM, I'm pretty flabbergasted by that. But ok, if you see "breeder" as simply a description, and not an attempt at to reducing people to animals, then good luck with that.

Of course, I love animals, so maybe the insult is lost on me. But in the English language, people procreate and animals breed. If you missed the obvious etymology of the term "breeder," consider yourself now educated. I'm surprised at your friends. But then again, I don't take much umbrage at being called a faggot.

lashbear · 05-03-2011, 05:36 PM

Of my gay friends, I have never heard the use of the word "Breeder" without it being in a derogatory sense. That is why I avoid using it myself.

Kevy Baby · 05-03-2011, 06:06 PM

Sorry SM: just because you don't believe "breeder" to be derogatory doesn't make it so (or not so to be correct). It is a derogatory term.

Not Afraid · 05-03-2011, 06:20 PM

It is a derogatory term that come with a load of unsaid meaning behind it.

Even with animals, I use the term "breeding bitch" to describe what Kimchi was in S. Korea before she became a pet and a princess, as in "she was USED as a breeding bitch".

Betty · 05-03-2011, 07:18 PM

SM - I believe you when you say you don't mean it insultingly.

But if someone is offended by it - what can you say? Just because you didn't mean to hurt someone's feelings (or however you want to say it) doesn't mean they don't feel bad.

Chernabog · 05-03-2011, 10:09 PM

To me, using the term "breeder" goes along with a "them vs. us" attitude. It's a dismissive term to call hetero people in reaction to the (high quantity of) terms that are dismissively directed towards homos.

You know, like when someone you barely know is yammering on and on about their kids, you might think to yourself "grrrrr... friggin breeders, I swear!"

Is the term entirely accurate now that so many gays are having kids? Obviously not... but it's really just reactionary byproduct of how the gays have historically been treated -- from the outside looking in. On the grand scale of things, it isn't usually meant to be a horrible slur.... just sort of dismissive.

That being said, I think that "breeder" is about as offensive as calling someone a "fag hag." It *could* be offensive depending on the context, but it isn't like we need to call it "the b-word" or something totally childish like that.

Betty · 05-04-2011, 06:19 AM

How many gays must God create before we accept that he wants them around?

innerSpaceman · 05-04-2011, 02:53 PM

Hahahah, I used "breeder" in a sentence in my el jay today. TeeHee.

Kevy Baby · 05-04-2011, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Hahahah, I used "breeder" in a sentence in my el jay today. TeeHee.

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05-03-2011, 04:37 PM	#1091
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Yes, but if you call Mr. Kim "Slant-eyed", you can't really feign innocence when he is offended. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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05-03-2011, 05:28 PM	#1092
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Wow, SM, I'm pretty flabbergasted by that. But ok, if you see "breeder" as simply a description, and not an attempt at to reducing people to animals, then good luck with that. Of course, I love animals, so maybe the insult is lost on me. But in the English language, people procreate and animals breed. If you missed the obvious etymology of the term "breeder," consider yourself now educated. I'm surprised at your friends. But then again, I don't take much umbrage at being called a faggot.
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05-03-2011, 05:36 PM	#1093
lashbear SwishBuckling Bear Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In Isolation :) Posts: 6,597	Of my gay friends, I have never heard the use of the word "Breeder" without it being in a derogatory sense. That is why I avoid using it myself. __________________ *I Heart* my Husband - I can't think of anyone I'd rather be in isolation with.**
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Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	Sorry SM: just because you don't believe "breeder" to be derogatory doesn't make it so (or not so to be correct). It is a derogatory term. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	It is a derogatory term that come with a load of unsaid meaning behind it. Even with animals, I use the term "breeding bitch" to describe what Kimchi was in S. Korea before she became a pet and a princess, as in "she was USED as a breeding bitch".
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05-03-2011, 07:18 PM	#1096
Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	SM - I believe you when you say you don't mean it insultingly. But if someone is offended by it - what can you say? Just because you didn't mean to hurt someone's feelings (or however you want to say it) doesn't mean they don't feel bad. __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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05-03-2011, 10:09 PM	#1097
Chernabog Biophage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Moon Posts: 2,679	To me, using the term "breeder" goes along with a "them vs. us" attitude. It's a dismissive term to call hetero people in reaction to the (high quantity of) terms that are dismissively directed towards homos. You know, like when someone you barely know is yammering on and on about their kids, you might think to yourself "grrrrr... friggin breeders, I swear!" Is the term entirely accurate now that so many gays are having kids? Obviously not... but it's really just reactionary byproduct of how the gays have historically been treated -- from the outside looking in. On the grand scale of things, it isn't usually meant to be a horrible slur.... just sort of dismissive. That being said, I think that "breeder" is about as offensive as calling someone a "fag hag." It could be offensive depending on the context, but it isn't like we need to call it "the b-word" or something totally childish like that. __________________ And they say back then our universe Was a coal black egg Until the god inside Burst out and from its shattered shell He made what became the world we know ~ Bjork (Cosmogony)
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05-04-2011, 06:19 AM	#1098
Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	How many gays must God create before we accept that he wants them around? __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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05-04-2011, 02:53 PM	#1099
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Hahahah, I used "breeder" in a sentence in my el jay today. TeeHee.
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