It's the end of the world (again)

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

That's all fine and dandy, except that the government DOES, so when these kids go to get financial aid, they're going to get screwed over, because part of their award will assume participation by their parents.

Sucks to be them, life isn't fair, etc. Guess they'll have to get a job and make a plan for how to get the education they want. (Assuming that the parents income, which isn't given in the article, is such that they'd be expected to contribute a significant amount.) Or perhaps they'll get lucky and dad will be so depressed at the continuation of the world that he'll quit his job and have no income at all when it comes time to do FAFSA forms.

[innerSpaceman]

So I'm trying to nail this down. The whole hoopla is started by a lunatic who broadcasts his own brand of Christian propaganda from Oakland, California - and he decided, after his admittedly failed reading of Biblical prophesy in 1994 (when he last predicted the Rapture would happen) that he now has it absolutely correct, and the Rapture will occur when always scheduled - on May 21, 2011.

Now, he says it will start at 6pm local time in the ocean between New Zealand and Fiji, and take the form of cataclysmic earthquakes that will roll out from there. But it's not clear from anything I can find whether the Rapture happens on May 21st in New Zealand or May 21st in Oakland, because those are two different days (from the perspective of either place).

Since he does specify local time, I'm gonna go on the assumption (different from my earlier one) that the date is local, too. Meaning the Rapture, when it hits Los Angeles, will be later TODAY, May 20th - at 10:00 p.m.

Accounting for time necessary for the wave of cataclysmic earthquakes to reach the West Coast of the U.S., it might be around midnight TONIGHT, and not tomorrow night.


I guess Brad's party is off. As is our pants-dropping I love you Mass Hug. Bummer.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

So I'm trying to nail this down. The whole hoopla is started by a lunatic who broadcasts his own brand of Christian propaganda from Oakland, California - and he decided, after his admittedly failed reading of Biblical prophesy in 1994 (when he last predicted the Rapture would happen) that he now has it absolutely correct, and the Rapture will occur when always scheduled - on May 21, 2011.

Now, he says it will start at 6pm local time in the ocean between New Zealand and Fiji, and take the form of cataclysmic earthquakes that will roll out from there. But it's not clear from anything I can find whether the Rapture happens on May 21st in New Zealand or May 21st in Oakland, because those are two different days (from the perspective of either place).

Since he does specify local time, I'm gonna go on the assumption (different from my earlier one) that the date is local, too. Meaning the Rapture, when it hits Los Angeles, will be later TODAY, May 20th - at 10:00 p.m.

Accounting for time necessary for the wave of cataclysmic earthquakes to reach the West Coast of the U.S., it might be around midnight TONIGHT, and not tomorrow night.


I guess Brad's party is off. As is our pants-dropping I love you Mass Hug. Bummer.

This might be one of my all time favorite posts. It's like the end of the world isn't enough of a bummer on it's own for you. You have to go that extra mile to make it even more personally inconvenient.

Love it!

[3894]

An invitation to the Rapture is a command and automatically cancels any other engagement. Your acceptance to His invitation to join Him for the Rapture should be written, as:

Ms. 3894 .... or Helen
accepts with pleasure
Lord and Savior Jesus'
kind invitation for the Rapture
on Saturday the 21st of May
at six o'clock
She regrets she is unable to attend the Battle of Armageddon to follow.

[cirquelover]

Originally Posted by Alex

I don't see the college thing as that big of a deal because I don't think parents have any obligation to pay for college.

I'm more impressed that though they've likely been raised with this stuff the kids are independent enough to stand solid and say, essentially, "this is stupid."

But if the worst thing these parents have done is not pay for college, openly believe stupid things, and refuse to make summer vacation plans, then these kids are suffering from first world rich people problems.

I think the worst thing these parents did was make their child feel like this;
“I don’t really have any motivation to try to figure out what I want to do anymore,” he said, “because my main support line, my parents, don’t care.”

The fact that they don't really seem to care about the children and they know it, is horrible! It's tough enough being a teen but to have her as the Mom, just WOW! I feel bad for the kids and hope they have a good support system with some other reasonable adults in their lives.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Though to be fair, I would challenge you to find ANY teenager in America who wouldn't say their parents don't care about them.

I don't literally think they are guilty of legal neglect. And I don't think parents have the inherent responsibility to fund their childrens' college education. However to willingly, knowingly, and purposefully trade the opportunity to give your children that kind of advantage in exchange for nothing is, imo, reprehensible.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

That's all fine and dandy, except that the government DOES, so when these kids go to get financial aid, they're going to get screwed over, because part of their award will assume participation by their parents.

Like thousands of other young adults. My parents didn't contribute one cent to my college education until I was in my late 20s and my mom decided I needed a BA and I said I'd go back if she paid for it but I had no desire to acquire even more student loans. I was hosed because their income was counted, ruling me out of aid.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by cirquelover

I think the worst thing these parents did was make their child feel like this;
“I don’t really have any motivation to try to figure out what I want to do anymore,” he said, “because my main support line, my parents, don’t care.”

To a degree I feel sympathy for that. But only to a degree. On the other hand, that reads to me the same as saying "waaah! If someone else won't give it to me, I don't want it."

As for how they're being raised, so long as the parents honestly beleive what they profess I don't really have a problem with it. Kids have had to deal with it through all time. I don't believe in what they believe in so trading educational opportunity in pursuit of needless spiritual salvation seems a horrible trade. But to those who believe, my (theoretical) approach to parenting that would trade spiritual salvation (that I don't believe exists) for an education that won't be needed is equally horrible (and infinitely longer in its impacts).

Now, I've always argued that raising children with religion is a mild form of child abuse. But I've been repeatedly told that this is intolerant of me.

[katiesue]

I was hosed as well. My parents didn't pay anything for college except my car insurance, and that was considered my Christmas/Birthday present. (although I find it interesting that neither of my parents paid for their own college experiences- but I digress).

I do think it's crap that parents income is counted if they're not supporting you. And I don't think your parent's "owe" you anything after you're an adult. If they've done their jobs you'll be independent and won't need them anyway.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

So I'm trying to nail this down. The whole hoopla is started by a lunatic who broadcasts his own brand of Christian propaganda from Oakland, California - and he decided, after his admittedly failed reading of Biblical prophesy in 1994 (when he last predicted the Rapture would happen) that he now has it absolutely correct, and the Rapture will occur when always scheduled - on May 21, 2011.

Now, he says it will start at 6pm local time in the ocean between New Zealand and Fiji, and take the form of cataclysmic earthquakes that will roll out from there. But it's not clear from anything I can find whether the Rapture happens on May 21st in New Zealand or May 21st in Oakland, because those are two different days (from the perspective of either place).

Since he does specify local time, I'm gonna go on the assumption (different from my earlier one) that the date is local, too. Meaning the Rapture, when it hits Los Angeles, will be later TODAY, May 20th - at 10:00 p.m.

Accounting for time necessary for the wave of cataclysmic earthquakes to reach the West Coast of the U.S., it might be around midnight TONIGHT, and not tomorrow night.


I guess Brad's party is off. As is our pants-dropping I love you Mass Hug. Bummer.

According to the good Reverend, the rapture will occur at 6PM local time in each and every timezone starting at the International Date Line. In other words... The Aussies will get sucked up 18 hours before us. It will hit Europe 10 hours after that; and the east coast 3 hours before here in California.