The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 659

sleepyjeff · 09-28-2011, 09:58 AM

Speaking of unconstitutional:

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/28/ne...nal-elections/

Alex · 09-28-2011, 10:07 AM

Obviously unconstitutional but I also doubt it was a serious policy proposal but rather a statement of how the continual campaigning makes it unlikely Congress can do anything significant to resolve issues.

It is hardly a unique position. But yes, if she was seriously suggesting we actually take steps to cancel elections (rather than that skipping one would make addressing problems easier by relieving congressmen of the constant pressures and requriements of re-election) she's a dolt.

And an inability to explain herself without the lame "it was a joke you didn't get" suggests she or her staff might be a dolt anyway.

Alex · 10-03-2011, 09:56 AM

It appears that the Occupy Wall Street people have expanded operations and are now camped out in front of the Federal Reserve Bank in San Francisco.

Actually, a pretty good turnout as I exited BART this morning, though a sign of life in San Francisco that I was halfway down the block of people in sleeping bags before I realized I was in the middle of a protest camp and not just among homeless people.

In their very vocal protestations that they're being ignored by the mainstream press in New York I've seen many comments that they are being dismissed for the way they look.

Now, I would attribute this more to the fact that I've not yet really seen anybody offering a coherent goal or position but now I've seen them, or at least a branch group.

It is not fair, but I tend to agree. When you look like you've rejected all of "society" then it is hard for me to take particularly seriously and objection made to a specific part of that society.

It feels kind of like I said "birthday parties are, by definition lame, but here's how you throw a great one." True, I may really know how to throw a great birthday party, but not many people are going to pay attention after the first half of that sentence.

I'm sure many of the kids camped out in front of the Fed have very good criticisms of whatever they are specifically criticizing and very good ideas on reform. But if you reject the very idea of a capitalism based society (as a hypothetical example) then you telling me how to make one better sounds like Nancy Pelosi saying who the Republicans should run for president.

Also, while someone with dreadlocks may have once said something important. Nothing worthwhile has ever emanated from the mouth of a 19-year-old with his or her beard in dreadlocks.

Not Afraid · 10-03-2011, 01:05 PM

Not that I've given it much effort, but I can't figure out what it is the protestors are really after.

Alex · 10-03-2011, 01:50 PM

Walked past there again at lunch to see if they were more active during daylight hours.

Looked even more like I was walking up Telegraph Avenue (in Berkeley) on any average day. One guy on a bullhorn chanting "don't give up your rights." Not sure what rights I am giving up.

Moonliner · 10-06-2011, 06:33 AM

Calif. Appeals Court Approves Cell Phone Searches During Traffic Stops

Quote:

Originally Posted by News

It appears anytime you are pulled over in the state of California, your entire cell phone is now fair game

Betty · 10-06-2011, 08:17 AM

That just doesn't make sense. If I have a computer in the car, what about that? Does it matter if it's a desktop vs laptop vs tablet? Aren't a smart phone and tablet like an ipad similar enough?

alphabassettgrrl · 10-06-2011, 08:24 AM

Wow.

Commenters have said the phone should simply have been inventoried as a phone, and there I absolutely agree. Nothing on the phone could have been a danger to the officers. No reason to look at it.

Maybe if someone's pulled over for reckless or unsafe driving they could ask to look at the log, to see if you were talking or texting in the last few minutes, but other than that, I can't see any reason they would need to see the contents of a phone.

Alex · 10-06-2011, 11:12 AM

It could be accurate as told but experience says that a story from The Blaze should be investigated to make sure reality conforms.

Moonliner · 10-06-2011, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

It could be accurate as told but experience says that a story from The Blaze should be investigated to make sure reality conforms.

In this case the Blaze article was linked to from Drudgereport.com so that should elevate any concerns about its veracity.

09-28-2011, 09:58 AM	#6581
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09-28-2011, 10:07 AM	#6582
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Obviously unconstitutional but I also doubt it was a serious policy proposal but rather a statement of how the continual campaigning makes it unlikely Congress can do anything significant to resolve issues. It is hardly a unique position. But yes, if she was seriously suggesting we actually take steps to cancel elections (rather than that skipping one would make addressing problems easier by relieving congressmen of the constant pressures and requriements of re-election) she's a dolt. And an inability to explain herself without the lame "it was a joke you didn't get" suggests she or her staff might be a dolt anyway.
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10-03-2011, 09:56 AM	#6583
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	It appears that the Occupy Wall Street people have expanded operations and are now camped out in front of the Federal Reserve Bank in San Francisco. Actually, a pretty good turnout as I exited BART this morning, though a sign of life in San Francisco that I was halfway down the block of people in sleeping bags before I realized I was in the middle of a protest camp and not just among homeless people. In their very vocal protestations that they're being ignored by the mainstream press in New York I've seen many comments that they are being dismissed for the way they look. Now, I would attribute this more to the fact that I've not yet really seen anybody offering a coherent goal or position but now I've seen them, or at least a branch group. It is not fair, but I tend to agree. When you look like you've rejected all of "society" then it is hard for me to take particularly seriously and objection made to a specific part of that society. It feels kind of like I said "birthday parties are, by definition lame, but here's how you throw a great one." True, I may really know how to throw a great birthday party, but not many people are going to pay attention after the first half of that sentence. I'm sure many of the kids camped out in front of the Fed have very good criticisms of whatever they are specifically criticizing and very good ideas on reform. But if you reject the very idea of a capitalism based society (as a hypothetical example) then you telling me how to make one better sounds like Nancy Pelosi saying who the Republicans should run for president. Also, while someone with dreadlocks may have once said something important. Nothing worthwhile has ever emanated from the mouth of a 19-year-old with his or her beard in dreadlocks.
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10-03-2011, 01:05 PM	#6584
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Not that I've given it much effort, but I can't figure out what it is the protestors are really after.
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10-03-2011, 01:50 PM	#6585
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Walked past there again at lunch to see if they were more active during daylight hours. Looked even more like I was walking up Telegraph Avenue (in Berkeley) on any average day. One guy on a bullhorn chanting "don't give up your rights." Not sure what rights I am giving up.
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10-06-2011, 08:17 AM	#6587
Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	That just doesn't make sense. If I have a computer in the car, what about that? Does it matter if it's a desktop vs laptop vs tablet? Aren't a smart phone and tablet like an ipad similar enough? __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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10-06-2011, 08:24 AM	#6588
alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	Wow. Commenters have said the phone should simply have been inventoried as a phone, and there I absolutely agree. Nothing on the phone could have been a danger to the officers. No reason to look at it. Maybe if someone's pulled over for reckless or unsafe driving they could ask to look at the log, to see if you were talking or texting in the last few minutes, but other than that, I can't see any reason they would need to see the contents of a phone. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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10-06-2011, 11:12 AM	#6589
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	It could be accurate as told but experience says that a story from The Blaze should be investigated to make sure reality conforms.
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