The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 671

€uroMeinke · 02-01-2012, 01:28 PM

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Speakingof Lincoln... Wouldn't the president whose election led to a civil war be considered "The Most Polarizing President Ever"?

Obama still has a few months left of his first term...

scaeagles · 02-01-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Speakingof Lincoln... Wouldn't the president whose election led to a civil war be considered "The Most Polarizing President Ever"?

Indeed. And yet he is widely regarded by many as one of, if not the best, President ever.

It would be interesting to see if the things he got away with then wouldfly today under any circumstances.

Alex · 02-01-2012, 01:52 PM

I think Millard Fillmore was probably the most polarizing president ever.

Mostly because he inspired the name of a political cartoon that you apparently either really love or really, really hate.

Moonliner · 02-01-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Indeed. And yet he is widely regarded by many as one of, if not the best, President ever.

It would be interesting to see if the things he got away with then wouldfly today under any circumstances.

I guess it goes without saying that "greatness" is directly tied to being on the winning side

JWBear · 02-01-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

I guess it goes without saying that "greatness" is directly tied to being on the winning side

That, plus his assassination turned him into a martyr.

innerSpaceman · 02-01-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

It would be interesting to see if the things he got away with then wouldfly today under any circumstances.

Yeah, like suspending habeas corpus. That could NEVER happen today.

scaeagles · 02-02-2012, 06:31 AM

I suppose I should have worded more carefully. Of course those things can and do happen today, but my "would fly" was meant to consider public opinion in regards to being the best President ever. Lincoln was regarded as one of the best....I am not among those that would consider Bush to be one of the best (if there are any at all).

It is interesting to think about how Lincoln would be perceived today and how his political motivations in many of his decisions would be spun in the modern day world of the press and politics.

Alex · 02-02-2012, 07:07 AM

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Indeed. Good point on the first time claims, however my point wasn't meaning an increase in the number every month but that every time a report comes out there are a huge number of first time claim, meaning more and more people are losing their jobs.

Read something this morning that had this chart of the weekly first time claims number since 2007. Just thought I'd share to put the current numbers in context.

alphabassettgrrl · 02-02-2012, 11:54 AM

Alex, I like the look of that chart!

3894 · 02-02-2012, 01:20 PM

"Celebrity business magnate Donald Trump endorsed Mitt Romney for president Thursday, telling reporters he will not mount an independent campaign if Romney is the Republican nominee."

Imagine the heaven of a bifurcation of the Republican vote between Newt and The Donald. Please, Lord, let it be so.

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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I suppose I should have worded more carefully. Of course those things can and do happen today, but my "would fly" was meant to consider public opinion in regards to being the best President ever. Lincoln was regarded as one of the best....I am not among those that would consider Bush to be one of the best (if there are any at all). It is interesting to think about how Lincoln would be perceived today and how his political motivations in many of his decisions would be spun in the modern day world of the press and politics.
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3894 Next Stop: Funkytown! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cheeselandia Posts: 1,907	"Celebrity business magnate Donald Trump endorsed Mitt Romney for president Thursday, telling reporters he will not mount an independent campaign if Romney is the Republican nominee." Imagine the heaven of a bifurcation of the Republican vote between Newt and The Donald. Please, Lord, let it be so. __________________ "I didn't want to have to do this, but you leave me no choice. Here comes the smolder." - Flynn Rider, "Tangled"
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