Soooooo......

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

There's no Jewish Hell.

So what is the ultimate fate of the very very naughty?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

So what is the ultimate fate of the very very naughty?

Vague.

Most discussion in Torah is in terms of punishment during life. Discussion of afterlife punishment comes in 2 forms. First is simply that, unlike those that have been good, you will not be reunited with your loved ones. Then there's talk of the "World To Come" which gets used somewhat interchangeably to refer to the spiritual life after death AND the world reboot that will happen after the arrival of the messiah (not Jesus). Basically, lack of goodness will lead to less standing in the World To Come.

As a practical matter, those are topics that only come up for the most part in circles doing deep reads of Torah/Talmud/rabbinical writings. Discussion of afterlife and eternal punishment/reward is not common in Jewish education.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Vague.

Most discussion in Torah is in terms of punishment during life. Discussion of afterlife punishment comes in 2 forms. First is simply that, unlike those that have been good, you will not be reunited with your loved ones. Then there's talk of the "World To Come" which gets used somewhat interchangeably to refer to the spiritual life after death AND the world reboot that will happen after the arrival of the messiah (not Jesus). Basically, lack of goodness will lead to less standing in the World To Come.

As a practical matter, those are topics that only come up for the most part in circles doing deep reads of Torah/Talmud/rabbinical writings. Discussion of afterlife and eternal punishment/reward is not common in Jewish education.

Fascinating. All the religions I've been exposed to (which generally fall under the "Christian" family tree) are positively obsessed with the life after death mythos.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Fascinating. All the religions I've been exposed to (which generally fall under the "Christian" family tree) are positively obsessed with the life after death mythos.

It is one of the aspects of Judaism I respect. The general gist I got from answers to the question, "Why should I be good?" growing up was, "Because then you'd be an a-hole. And nobody likes an a-hole, including God." I find that a much more tenable moral compass than the reward/punishment message.