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Ghoulish Delight · 10-18-2012, 02:35 PM

Exactly. And because I'm rather ignorant of the cultural context, I have no idea how to begin parsing those visuals. How much of that actually racist? How much of it inadvertently racist (because I'm pretty sure in South Africa, even a relatively progressive viewpoint can still be quite racist. See: minstrel)? Or is it all satirical/purposefully racially confrontational to make anti-racist statements? Are some parts just pure abstraction for weirdness' sake? Can any of those really be separated?

All I know for sure is that those two are incredibly skilled rap artists, whoever is doing their videos is incredibly skilled, and I can't look away.

Alex · 10-18-2012, 03:32 PM

There was an article at Slate about the video in the last couple of days (that's why I knew what you were talking about) that talked about the cultural context of blackface in South Africa (apparently they have there own minstrel shows).

Cadaverous Pallor · 10-18-2012, 04:34 PM

Die Antwoord is one of those things that I find incredible and mind-bending, but that I can't recommend to anyone, really.

€uroMeinke · 10-18-2012, 09:10 PM

Die Antwoord are performance artists who created these wonderfully mind-bending personas. That they suddenly became popular in the states just magnified the art in so many ways.

Cadaverous Pallor · 10-18-2012, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Die Antwoord are performance artists who created these wonderfully mind-bending personas. That they suddenly became popular in the states just magnified the art in so many ways.

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mousepod · 10-19-2012, 06:21 AM

The personas of Die Antwoord are just the latest in a series of characters they've played through the years. Having said that - they absolutely nail it. See em live if you can. They do not disappoint.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-19-2012, 10:44 AM

Just read the official police report of our accident.

The driver of the 100% at fault - due to an "illegal turning motion."

Also, we have the CRV back. Looks great.

BarTopDancer · 10-19-2012, 11:09 AM

That's awesome news GD!

Ghoulish Delight · 10-19-2012, 11:33 AM

I feel bad for the family in the SUV at fault. On top of having gone through that hell, being responsible for the insurance side of things, and getting cited for the traffic violation - it was in a construction zone which means the fine is doubled. Everyone on scene was of course very relieved that we all walked away unscathed, but they are no doubt going to be reeling from this for a while. And they had a young child of their own.

Alex · 10-19-2012, 02:43 PM

True to my nature, after reading that Slate article about them I watched several of the Die Antwood videos, some of them more than once.

I still remember many of the visuals and couldn't tell you a think about the music.

10-18-2012, 02:35 PM	#2511
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Exactly. And because I'm rather ignorant of the cultural context, I have no idea how to begin parsing those visuals. How much of that actually racist? How much of it inadvertently racist (because I'm pretty sure in South Africa, even a relatively progressive viewpoint can still be quite racist. See: minstrel)? Or is it all satirical/purposefully racially confrontational to make anti-racist statements? Are some parts just pure abstraction for weirdness' sake? Can any of those really be separated? All I know for sure is that those two are incredibly skilled rap artists, whoever is doing their videos is incredibly skilled, and I can't look away. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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10-18-2012, 03:32 PM	#2512
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	There was an article at Slate about the video in the last couple of days (that's why I knew what you were talking about) that talked about the cultural context of blackface in South Africa (apparently they have there own minstrel shows).
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10-18-2012, 04:34 PM	#2513
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Die Antwoord is one of those things that I find incredible and mind-bending, but that I can't recommend to anyone, really. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	Die Antwoord are performance artists who created these wonderfully mind-bending personas. That they suddenly became popular in the states just magnified the art in so many ways. __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	The personas of Die Antwoord are just the latest in a series of characters they've played through the years. Having said that - they absolutely nail it. See em live if you can. They do not disappoint. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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10-19-2012, 10:44 AM	#2517
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Just read the official police report of our accident. The driver of the 100% at fault - due to an "illegal turning motion." Also, we have the CRV back. Looks great. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	That's awesome news GD! __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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10-19-2012, 11:33 AM	#2519
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I feel bad for the family in the SUV at fault. On top of having gone through that hell, being responsible for the insurance side of things, and getting cited for the traffic violation - it was in a construction zone which means the fine is doubled. Everyone on scene was of course very relieved that we all walked away unscathed, but they are no doubt going to be reeling from this for a while. And they had a young child of their own. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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10-19-2012, 02:43 PM	#2520
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	True to my nature, after reading that Slate article about them I watched several of the Die Antwood videos, some of them more than once. I still remember many of the visuals and couldn't tell you a think about the music.
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