Why Frozen is getting the full treatment

[RStar]

So THIS IS WHY Disney is giving FROZEN the full treatment, and it all comes full circle to The Little Mermaid. Interesting.

[Moonliner]

So they are closing Maelstrom in order to shoehorn in a Frozen ride ASAP.

*sigh*

One D-Ticket attraction coming up.

I suppose taking the time to do it right, design an attraction around the movie and then build it from scratch is not an option. Perhaps something with a "snow room" that let's you build a real snowman....

[alphabassettgrrl]

I may have to stop by the chocolate shop in Hollywood to see the animation cels but other than that have very little interest in Frozen anything. And I don't think it belongs in the World Showcase. Frozen is fantasy, the Showcase is not. Or mostly not.

[RStar]

I agree, it doesn't belong in World Showcase, it belongs in Fantasyland. Yes, Maelstrum is aging and needs to be updated somehow.

They will be spending 18 months, a fair amount of money, expanding the flume at the entrance and exit to expand the ride, and signs point to a quality ride. I wouldn't expect the country bears into pile of pooh treatment. But that's not the point here. The fact that they want to act fairly quickly campared- at least- to Mermaid, and the animation work that got us here is more the point.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by RStar

expanding the flume at the entrance and exit to expand the ride.

When I think "Frozen" I don't think "Flume". I don't think they would either except for the fact that they already have one.

[RStar]

I can see your point. It feels like the water should be frozen over into ice. An Omnimover ride seems more fitting. And yes, they figure they could get it built faster by making over a ride they already have that needs reworking anyway. It now takes them 3 years to build one from scratch, when Disneyland took only a year. But perhaps the harvesting ice scene which has flowing water, and Arendale has liquid ocean around it at the begining and end of the movie will be enough to justify fluid water in the flume.

Because they are taking away an old beloved attraction, and putting fictional characters into the World Showcase, they best do a good job or this could get ugly for them. Just sayin....

But then it is Frozen, which is so popular it may not matter anyway...

And I am looking forward to Frozen in the TV show Once Upon A Time.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by RStar

Because they are taking away an old beloved attraction, and putting fictional characters into the World Showcase, they best do a good job or this could get ugly for them. Just sayin....

I seem to remember Donald and friends in the Mexico world showcase so it's not without precedent.

Originally Posted by RStar

It now takes them 3 years to build one from scratch, when Disneyland took only a year.

To be fair, a single modern E-ticket ride is a hugely larger project than all of Disneyland was in 1955.

Originally Posted by RStar

But then it is Frozen, which is so popular it may not matter anyway...

When that line of thought governs the design of an attraction, bad things happen.

[alphabassettgrrl]

What makes me sad is that there is a segment of the population that will only get as far as seeing the characters, and it won't matter how crappy the ride is, they'll only remember that they got to see them. Which encourages Disney to not worry about putting in any quality- why bother when nobody notices anything other than the star characters? They'll come home and tell everybody how they went on the Frozen ride.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl

What makes me sad is that there is a segment of the population that will only get as far as seeing the characters, and it won't matter how crappy the ride is, they'll only remember that they got to see them. Which encourages Disney to not worry about putting in any quality- why bother when nobody notices anything other than the star characters? They'll come home and tell everybody how they went on the Frozen ride.

Despite my pessimistic rumblings so far in this thread, I have some small glimmer of hope that the bean counters at Disney will look at the never ending (so far at least) cash cow CarsLand has created combined with Universal Florida and Hollywood upping their game with all the new Harry Potter stuff and green light something using the "spend more to make more" philosophy.

*sigh* I know, I'm a hopeless dreamer. Is a pessimistic optimist a thing? Because if it is that's me.

[RStar]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

I seem to remember Donald and friends in the Mexico world showcase so it's not without precedent.


To be fair, a single modern E-ticket ride is a hugely larger project than all of Disneyland was in 1955.


When that line of thought governs the design of an attraction, bad things happen.

Yes, Donald in the Three Amigos is there, and some of the historic fantasy of various lands are mentioned. So it's not exactly only "True Life Adventures" in the World Showcase. But still, it seems like completely made up stories belong in Fantasyland.

Also, I know that Disney corporate red tape, enhanced building codes and regulations, and complicated infrastructure due to technology slows things down. It's just frustrating to watch it go at such a slow pace.

And lastly, yes I agree that if they think "Ok, the movie is a success so we can paint some plywood figures and call it a ride and it will be ok!" we will have a problem. But I think they realize that now. Between the pitiful attendance to the Pooh ride at DCA, and the huge success of Potter in Uni, I think they got the message. But what I meant in that statement was the location, not the quality. I think the quality will be pretty good, and that the main visitor won't care that it's at the World Showcase. That's all.