How much longer till the US is a full fledged police state?

Name · 08-22-2005, 09:52 PM

Rave gets busted by what looks like a full Army regiment.

Video:
http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/FileSharing2.html

Forum thread with details about what happened:
http://www.utrave.org/showthread.php?t=19971

Seems a bit extreme to me, what, is partying illegal now?
Is there no better way this could have been handled?
I think it is insane.
What's next?

TigerLily · 08-22-2005, 09:55 PM

I don't know, but I think they should close the borders.

Not Afraid · 08-22-2005, 10:30 PM

Well, this was Utah. That stopped me from wondering what happened right away. Not that it was right.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-22-2005, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerLily

I don't know, but I think they should close the borders.

That is some seriously fcked up sht.

Sometimes I'm shocked at what our "free" country's gov't gets away with. It's disgusting.

TigerLily · 08-22-2005, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

That is some seriously fcked up sht.

Sometimes I'm shocked at what our "free" country's gov't gets away with. It's disgusting.

why?? if people come here legally or for holiday...then cool...but the people who sneak across and then somehow get to stay and get our free help for food, housing and medical even though they are not here legally...now that is some seriously fcked up sht.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-22-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerLily

why?? if people come here legally or for holiday...then cool...but the people who sneak across and then somehow get to stay and get our free help for food, housing and medical even though they are not here legally...now that is some seriously fcked up sht.

We're talking about a rave, a party. Not the border.

TigerLily · 08-22-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

We're talking about a rave, a party. Not the border.

oh....my bad...carry on...good night..

Ghoulish Delight · 08-22-2005, 10:44 PM

One post in the utraves thread says that the location was a regular party location...that had been regularaly busted in this manner. The OP of the thread even seems to hint that the promoter and the government weren't exactly in agreement about the party going on in the first place.

Me thinks there's more to this story than meets the eye.

€uroMeinke · 08-22-2005, 10:48 PM

So did they catch Osama there? or did he slip through the cracks again?

Name · 08-22-2005, 10:58 PM

There is almost always more then meets the eye, but I am wary of believing the police account of the operation(which I think is pretty sad), just as much as I am wary to believing the accounts of the partygoers and promoters.

But, after sifting through some of it, it seems that the promoter had all the proper permits for this party, or at least believed he did, at least had the ones that the govt officials said he needed<tin foil hat>(they coulda lied to him and left one out)</tin foil hat>, from some of the accounts, the police ripped the permit from his hand when he protested to them and showed them he had the proper paperwork filed. Not sure exactly what happened, but even if not 100% legal, this seems a bit to extreme of a way to break up a party. Extremism is extremism, be it islamic, or police methodology(sp?).

Oh, and no word on if Osama was found there, or if he was allowed to escape again.

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Name Title Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: here Posts: 779	How much longer till the US is a full fledged police state? Rave gets busted by what looks like a full Army regiment. Video: http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/FileSharing2.html Forum thread with details about what happened: http://www.utrave.org/showthread.php?t=19971 Seems a bit extreme to me, what, is partying illegal now? Is there no better way this could have been handled? I think it is insane. What's next? __________________ Signature
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Name Title Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: here Posts: 779	There is almost always more then meets the eye, but I am wary of believing the police account of the operation(which I think is pretty sad), just as much as I am wary to believing the accounts of the partygoers and promoters. But, after sifting through some of it, it seems that the promoter had all the proper permits for this party, or at least believed he did, at least had the ones that the govt officials said he needed<tin foil hat>(they coulda lied to him and left one out)</tin foil hat>, from some of the accounts, the police ripped the permit from his hand when he protested to them and showed them he had the proper paperwork filed. Not sure exactly what happened, but even if not 100% legal, this seems a bit to extreme of a way to break up a party. Extremism is extremism, be it islamic, or police methodology(sp?). Oh, and no word on if Osama was found there, or if he was allowed to escape again. __________________ Signature
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