Wondering about Drince88 - Page 9

scaeagles · 09-02-2005, 01:20 PM

Gn2Dlnd, I completely missed your point and I think we have some miscommunication coming in.

My post, originally about criticism, etc, was in direct response to a post from Gemini Cricket, where he said this -

"It's almost as staggering as Bush's yet again uncaring attitude after a crisis."

With all the genuine things there are to be critical about, I thought that was political in its origins. The other criticisms, many of which I have brought up as well, are completely within the realm of intelligent debate and not political whatsoever.

I read this and tought it was well done - plenty of blame to go around everywhere -

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050901/D8CBNMA88.html

Again, my apologies, Gn2Dlnd. I misunderstood where you were coming from. Just as you have read many, many things about how some are saying that all criticism is simply political (which I disagree with), I have read (and I am sure you have as well) many inflamatory things with baseless criticism designed solely for political gain.

Gn2Dlnd · 09-02-2005, 01:23 PM

I apologize for not first acknowledging Drince, I'm glad you and your people are okay. Scrooge, what a horrifying experience for your friend, I hope he gets whatever treatment he needs and quickly.

Cadaverous Pallor · 09-02-2005, 01:25 PM

Have you guys been hearing what the Mayor of NO is saying? He's cursing in interviews. They have to bleep him out. He is majorly pissed.

I don't think any resources were held back, or that no one cares. What I do feel is that nothing was put into readiness. Nothing was prepared. No one wanted to face what kind of scale this could end up at, and when it did happen, all the resources were still scattered. No one could say that NO hasn't had a target on it's back for 50 years. The lack of preparedness on all counts is incredible.

And unforgivable.

All this makes me wonder where the resources are.....where the food/blankets/other essentials are stored around city centers.....if anywhere at all.

scaeagles · 09-02-2005, 01:29 PM

I have heard him. I think what happened is he started coming under a bunch of criticism for his own inaction and is trying to deflect it.

I agree, though, CP. I think everyone is trying now, but it is too late. The cliche "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" is a complete understatement in this case.

lizziebith · 09-02-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Have you guys been hearing what the Mayor of NO is saying? He's cursing in interviews. They have to bleep him out. He is majorly pissed.

Oh I have totally heard and said Hallelujah!

He said "goddamn" on teevee. Bless his heart. I agree with everything he said including the expletives...

SacTown Chronic · 09-02-2005, 01:59 PM

Bush speech

Quote:

Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house -- he's lost his entire house -- there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch. (Laughter.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

It's almost as staggering as Bush's yet again uncaring attitude after a crisis.

You've nailed it yet again, GC.

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Would you be critical if he didn't view the damage?

Nope.

The guy asked us to conserve fuel this Labor Day weekend and he's flying around for photo-ops.

scaeagles · 09-02-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

Nope.

The guy asked us to conserve fuel this Labor Day weekend and he's flying around for photo-ops.

OK - I believe you. But I'll assure you that no matter what he did, the criticism would be erupting. If he didn't view it, or go to the scene, it would be viewed as evidence he doesn't care.

SacTown Chronic · 09-02-2005, 02:22 PM

Yeah, it's a no-win situation for him.

Gemini Cricket · 09-02-2005, 02:37 PM

Here's a transcript from CNN's coverage of Bush's visit to Biloxi:
(He's talking to 3 survivors. One man and two ladies.)

Bush to women: "There's a Salvation Army center that I want to, that I'll tell you where it is, and they'll get you some help. I'm sorry.... They'll help you.....

Woman 1: "I came here looking for clothes..."

Bush: "They'll get you some clothes, at the Salvation Army center..."

Woman 1: "We don't have anything..."

Bush: "I understand.... Do you know where the center is, that I'm talking to you about?"

Guy with shades: "There's no center there, sir, it's a truck."

Bush: "There's trucks?"

Guy: "There's a school, a school about two miles away....."

Bush: "But isn't there a Salvation center down there?"

Guy: "No that's wiped out...."

Bush: "A temporary center? "

Guy: "No sir they've got a truck there, for food."

Bush: "That's what I'm saying, for food and water."

(Bush turns to the sister who's been saying how she needs clothes.)

Bush to sister: "You need food and water."

---------------------------

I think I would feel worse after talking to him...

Prudence · 09-02-2005, 03:48 PM

New story:

As if it wasn't bad enough already, a bus loaded with refugeees overturned, killing one and seriously injuring several others.

09-02-2005, 01:20 PM	#81
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Gn2Dlnd, I completely missed your point and I think we have some miscommunication coming in. My post, originally about criticism, etc, was in direct response to a post from Gemini Cricket, where he said this - "It's almost as staggering as Bush's yet again uncaring attitude after a crisis." With all the genuine things there are to be critical about, I thought that was political in its origins. The other criticisms, many of which I have brought up as well, are completely within the realm of intelligent debate and not political whatsoever. I read this and tought it was well done - plenty of blame to go around everywhere - http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050901/D8CBNMA88.html Again, my apologies, Gn2Dlnd. I misunderstood where you were coming from. Just as you have read many, many things about how some are saying that all criticism is simply political (which I disagree with), I have read (and I am sure you have as well) many inflamatory things with baseless criticism designed solely for political gain. Last edited by scaeagles : 09-02-2005 at 01:26 PM.
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09-02-2005, 01:23 PM	#82
Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	I apologize for not first acknowledging Drince, I'm glad you and your people are okay. Scrooge, what a horrifying experience for your friend, I hope he gets whatever treatment he needs and quickly.
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09-02-2005, 01:25 PM	#83
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Have you guys been hearing what the Mayor of NO is saying? He's cursing in interviews. They have to bleep him out. He is majorly pissed. I don't think any resources were held back, or that no one cares. What I do feel is that nothing was put into readiness. Nothing was prepared. No one wanted to face what kind of scale this could end up at, and when it did happen, all the resources were still scattered. No one could say that NO hasn't had a target on it's back for 50 years. The lack of preparedness on all counts is incredible. And unforgivable. All this makes me wonder where the resources are.....where the food/blankets/other essentials are stored around city centers.....if anywhere at all. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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09-02-2005, 01:29 PM	#84
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I have heard him. I think what happened is he started coming under a bunch of criticism for his own inaction and is trying to deflect it. I agree, though, CP. I think everyone is trying now, but it is too late. The cliche "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" is a complete understatement in this case.
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09-02-2005, 02:22 PM	#88
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	Yeah, it's a no-win situation for him. __________________ Is it the fingers, or the brain that you're teaching a lesson?
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09-02-2005, 02:37 PM	#89
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Here's a transcript from CNN's coverage of Bush's visit to Biloxi: (He's talking to 3 survivors. One man and two ladies.) Bush to women: "There's a Salvation Army center that I want to, that I'll tell you where it is, and they'll get you some help. I'm sorry.... They'll help you..... Woman 1: "I came here looking for clothes..." Bush: "They'll get you some clothes, at the Salvation Army center..." Woman 1: "We don't have anything..." Bush: "I understand.... Do you know where the center is, that I'm talking to you about?" Guy with shades: "There's no center there, sir, it's a truck." Bush: "There's trucks?" Guy: "There's a school, a school about two miles away....." Bush: "But isn't there a Salvation center down there?" Guy: "No that's wiped out...." Bush: "A temporary center? " Guy: "No sir they've got a truck there, for food." Bush: "That's what I'm saying, for food and water." (Bush turns to the sister who's been saying how she needs clothes.) Bush to sister: "You need food and water." --------------------------- I think I would feel worse after talking to him...
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09-02-2005, 03:48 PM	#90
Prudence Beelzeboobs, Esq. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gavel - I haz it Posts: 6,287	New story: As if it wasn't bad enough already, a bus loaded with refugeees overturned, killing one and seriously injuring several others. __________________ traguna macoities tracorum satis de
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