Clinton Speaks about Bush-

[PanTheMan]

I fear the Dems have dug themselves into a deep hole, pandering to the far Left. As we have seen in this last election, there seems to be far more far right voters, than far left ones. (Thinaks in part to HUGE Republican voter registration drives at Churches...TAX EXEMPT Churches, but that is another thread)

I Hope McCain runs, as far as the GOP. As for the Dems, Gore has been quietly making some news of late.....Hmmmmmmm.... I wonder why?......

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by PanTheMan

(Thinaks in part to HUGE Republican voter registration drives at Churches...TAX EXEMPT Churches, but that is another thread)

Well, since you put it in this thread......

Are you suggesting that the predominant african-american churches throughout the south where Jesse and Al speak are registering republicans in droves? I know many Christians/Catholics who are registered democrats and may find you implication a bit insulting, as if someone who goes to church must, by default, be a republican.

I hate to tell you this, but I go to one of the largest churches in AZ, and I've never seen even one hint of a voter registration drive. I'm a bit confused.

[wendybeth]

Scaeagles, my daughter attended a homeschool group at a very large church here in Spokane. She did, anyway, until the homeschool leader, who also leads the church, sent us all an e-mail advising us to vote for the "more Christian of the candidates". We haven't been back.

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Scaeagles, my daughter attended a homeschool group at a very large church here in Spokane. She did, anyway, until the homeschool leader, who also leads the church, sent us all an e-mail advising us to vote for the "more Christian of the candidates". We haven't been back.

Nor would I. That's one of the things that irritates me most about politics in this country: people telling others how to vote and for whom. It's really nobody's damn business who anyone else votes for, and the quickest way to turn me against your candidate is to advise me to vote for them.


As far as Hillary, and this is only my take, the problem with her lies mainly in the difference between her and Bill. They're both kinda sleazy, (again, just IMO) but with Bill it's pretty obvious and manageable. He couldn't hide it, and nobody was surprised by anything he did. He's just Bill, that ol' dog. But Hillary is sneakier. She hides all of the same negative traits that Bill has underneath this disguise of poise and stature, making herself look better than she really is. She's like Chancellor Palpatine, waiting to take over the world, throw off the disguise, and become the evil Empor-her.


I'd love to see either party, or even a third party, put up someone I can stand behind. I finally decided to withhold my vote this past election because I didn’t feel that either candidate deserved it, and I’m not into just voting against the lesser candidate. Someone who I can put faith in would be awesome, though. Names that come to my mind from the political spectrum are McCain, Obama, Powell and Schwarzenegger. Well, okay, not Arnold. I just crack up at the thought of seeing a bunch of Hummers parked on the White House lawn and him giving the “Stayyyyt uv duh Yoonyun” address while puffing on a stogie.

[Name]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Names that come to my mind from the political spectrum are McCain, Obama, Powell and Schwarzenegger. Well, okay, not Arnold. I just crack up at the thought of seeing a bunch of Hummers parked on the White House lawn and him giving the “Stayyyyt uv duh Yoonyun” address while puffing on a stogie.

Bwahahahahah, I just had an image of a fleet of hummer stretch limos parked in front of the white house waiting for A'hnold as part of the presidential motorcade pop into my head.

[PanTheMan]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Nor would I. That's one of the things that irritates me most about politics in this country: people telling others how to vote and for whom. It's really nobody's damn business who anyone else votes for, and the quickest way to turn me against your candidate is to advise me to vote for them.


As far as Hillary, and this is only my take, the problem with her lies mainly in the difference between her and Bill. They're both kinda sleazy, (again, just IMO) but with Bill it's pretty obvious and manageable. He couldn't hide it, and nobody was surprised by anything he did. He's just Bill, that ol' dog. But Hillary is sneakier. She hides all of the same negative traits that Bill has underneath this disguise of poise and stature, making herself look better than she really is. She's like Chancellor Palpatine, waiting to take over the world, throw off the disguise, and become the evil Empor-her.


I'd love to see either party, or even a third party, put up someone I can stand behind. I finally decided to withhold my vote this past election because I didn’t feel that either candidate deserved it, and I’m not into just voting against the lesser candidate. Someone who I can put faith in would be awesome, though. Names that come to my mind from the political spectrum are McCain, Obama, Powell and Schwarzenegger. Well, okay, not Arnold. I just crack up at the thought of seeing a bunch of Hummers parked on the White House lawn and him giving the “Stayyyyt uv duh Yoonyun” address while puffing on a stogie.

Wow, McCain, Obama, Powell? You cover the Spectrum! Throw in Jesse Jackson and Santorum, and you have a ROYAL FLUSH! Which isn't a bad idea, if we were to Flush ALL of them.

And Hillary=Palpatine? Not Exacty that bad. However i would Vote for McCain, Powell, and Obama over her. My problem with Hillary is her OBVIOUS move towards the middle to attract those of us in the center. When i go to Vote I want to know who that person is now, and what his/her track record has been throughout their entire life in public service. Seeing a shift just before beginning a campaign is always suspect.

One thing Hillary would bring is a Big Stick with her if she was elected. I would pay BIG BUCKS to watch her B*TCH-SLAP Osama Bin Laden back to the Middle Ages. I Hear Billie is still unable to grow hair on the left side of his face after she found out about Monica. That Slap On Pennsylvania Ave that Night was heard all the way to ships offshore in the Atlantic....lol

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by PanTheMan

towards the middle to attract those of us in the center.

Oh man, now I have to clean all this Dr. Pepper off my computer screen

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by PanTheMan

Wow, McCain, Obama, Powell? You cover the Spectrum! Throw in Jesse Jackson and Santorum, and you have a ROYAL FLUSH! Which isn't a bad idea, if we were to Flush ALL of them.

Those were just a couple of names off the top of my head; hardly a complete covering of the entire spectrum. But I do see them as good candidates because they all seem to present a sense of integrity and willingness to do what they believe is right, as opposed to dancing along the party line and making decisions based on opinion polls. But Jackson and Santorum? The biggest political opportunist of all time and a total Ivory Tower dwelling, holier than thou wacko? Hardly.

Originally Posted by PanTheMan

One thing Hillary would bring is a Big Stick with her if she was elected. I would pay BIG BUCKS to watch her B*TCH-SLAP Osama Bin Laden back to the Middle Ages.

I hardly believe that Darth Blondie has the chutzpah to actually accomplish that. Talk about it? Yes. Do it? No. She’s as much of a cause-du-jour, all bark and no bite limp noodle as anyone ever has been. She wouldn’t dare ever step out and take any action that would make her score on “random” (liberal think tank generated) opinion polls take a hit. At least Bill shot up some tents. I doubt that Hillary’s ever even played “Battleship.”

[scaeagles]

On a side note, Jazzman, that is one hot woman with you in the pic. You are a lucky man. Anyway....

Back to the church thing....I am completely aware that people who are involved with leadership in religious organizations can be and are politically active. My only dispute was the "registration drives" at churches, which I've never seen before. I know all sorts of religious people involved with organizations that put out surveys with how candidates have answered certain questions. I have no problem with that, but saying you must vote for "the more Christian" of the candidates is way off. I don't know why religious people should be precluded from having religious views influence their politics or from trying to influence others as to how they vote. It's no less valid a reason than anything else.

As far as Catholics.....is it wrong for the leadership to say it is a sin to vote for a pro-choice candidate? I don't think so. Is it a sin? Not for me to say. The thing is, if you ar a catholic, should you not abide by what the catholic leadership says? If you do not agree with the catholic leadership, fine. Either accept that you may be sinning in the eyes of the leadership (and then presumably in the eyes of God), or do not participate as a Catholic.

But as to the name "demoncrat"....I like it, and may decide to start using it on a regular basis.

[PanTheMan]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Well, since you put it in this thread......

Are you suggesting that the predominant african-american churches throughout the south where Jesse and Al speak are registering republicans in droves? I know many Christians/Catholics who are registered democrats and may find you implication a bit insulting, as if someone who goes to church must, by default, be a republican.

I hate to tell you this, but I go to one of the largest churches in AZ, and I've never seen even one hint of a voter registration drive. I'm a bit confused.

I do Say i cannot speak for ALL Churches. If you are in a Church that does NOT cross it's politics with its message, than YOU are in a GREAT Church, and i wish I could be there to attend.

I am Catholic, WE were told to vote for a PRO CHOICE canidate is a SIN.
My Ex-Wife is raising my oldest 2 Baptist. THEY were told in sunday school the the best way to remember what party is the 'Good" party is that Domocrat means "DEMONCRAT." The party that wants to kill unborn babies, and just a few months ago were told again the DEMONCRATS wanted to Kill Terri Schiavo.

There are a number of Churches who also register Democrats, but obviously this last election were not as successful given they had no scare tactic to run on.

Churches in Ohio for instance wrere showing images of Long Lines of Homosexual couples at City Hall in San Francisco, and were told, If the Democrats win, this will be your town, etc... THEY CAME OUT IN DROVES.
(Droves, rhymes with Roves...as in his idea...)

I Say If ANY Church enters the Political arena. END thier Tax exempt status.
Pat Robertson makes Millions, pays ZERO tax?.....uh huh.