Clinton Speaks about Bush-

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Scaeagles, my daughter attended a homeschool group at a very large church here in Spokane. She did, anyway, until the homeschool leader, who also leads the church, sent us all an e-mail advising us to vote for the "more Christian of the candidates". We haven't been back.

Nor would I. That's one of the things that irritates me most about politics in this country: people telling others how to vote and for whom. It's really nobody's damn business who anyone else votes for, and the quickest way to turn me against your candidate is to advise me to vote for them.


As far as Hillary, and this is only my take, the problem with her lies mainly in the difference between her and Bill. They're both kinda sleazy, (again, just IMO) but with Bill it's pretty obvious and manageable. He couldn't hide it, and nobody was surprised by anything he did. He's just Bill, that ol' dog. But Hillary is sneakier. She hides all of the same negative traits that Bill has underneath this disguise of poise and stature, making herself look better than she really is. She's like Chancellor Palpatine, waiting to take over the world, throw off the disguise, and become the evil Empor-her.


I'd love to see either party, or even a third party, put up someone I can stand behind. I finally decided to withhold my vote this past election because I didn’t feel that either candidate deserved it, and I’m not into just voting against the lesser candidate. Someone who I can put faith in would be awesome, though. Names that come to my mind from the political spectrum are McCain, Obama, Powell and Schwarzenegger. Well, okay, not Arnold. I just crack up at the thought of seeing a bunch of Hummers parked on the White House lawn and him giving the “Stayyyyt uv duh Yoonyun” address while puffing on a stogie.

[Name]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Names that come to my mind from the political spectrum are McCain, Obama, Powell and Schwarzenegger. Well, okay, not Arnold. I just crack up at the thought of seeing a bunch of Hummers parked on the White House lawn and him giving the “Stayyyyt uv duh Yoonyun” address while puffing on a stogie.

Bwahahahahah, I just had an image of a fleet of hummer stretch limos parked in front of the white house waiting for A'hnold as part of the presidential motorcade pop into my head.

[PanTheMan]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Nor would I. That's one of the things that irritates me most about politics in this country: people telling others how to vote and for whom. It's really nobody's damn business who anyone else votes for, and the quickest way to turn me against your candidate is to advise me to vote for them.


As far as Hillary, and this is only my take, the problem with her lies mainly in the difference between her and Bill. They're both kinda sleazy, (again, just IMO) but with Bill it's pretty obvious and manageable. He couldn't hide it, and nobody was surprised by anything he did. He's just Bill, that ol' dog. But Hillary is sneakier. She hides all of the same negative traits that Bill has underneath this disguise of poise and stature, making herself look better than she really is. She's like Chancellor Palpatine, waiting to take over the world, throw off the disguise, and become the evil Empor-her.


I'd love to see either party, or even a third party, put up someone I can stand behind. I finally decided to withhold my vote this past election because I didn’t feel that either candidate deserved it, and I’m not into just voting against the lesser candidate. Someone who I can put faith in would be awesome, though. Names that come to my mind from the political spectrum are McCain, Obama, Powell and Schwarzenegger. Well, okay, not Arnold. I just crack up at the thought of seeing a bunch of Hummers parked on the White House lawn and him giving the “Stayyyyt uv duh Yoonyun” address while puffing on a stogie.

Wow, McCain, Obama, Powell? You cover the Spectrum! Throw in Jesse Jackson and Santorum, and you have a ROYAL FLUSH! Which isn't a bad idea, if we were to Flush ALL of them.

And Hillary=Palpatine? Not Exacty that bad. However i would Vote for McCain, Powell, and Obama over her. My problem with Hillary is her OBVIOUS move towards the middle to attract those of us in the center. When i go to Vote I want to know who that person is now, and what his/her track record has been throughout their entire life in public service. Seeing a shift just before beginning a campaign is always suspect.

One thing Hillary would bring is a Big Stick with her if she was elected. I would pay BIG BUCKS to watch her B*TCH-SLAP Osama Bin Laden back to the Middle Ages. I Hear Billie is still unable to grow hair on the left side of his face after she found out about Monica. That Slap On Pennsylvania Ave that Night was heard all the way to ships offshore in the Atlantic....lol

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by PanTheMan

towards the middle to attract those of us in the center.

Oh man, now I have to clean all this Dr. Pepper off my computer screen

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by PanTheMan

Wow, McCain, Obama, Powell? You cover the Spectrum! Throw in Jesse Jackson and Santorum, and you have a ROYAL FLUSH! Which isn't a bad idea, if we were to Flush ALL of them.

Those were just a couple of names off the top of my head; hardly a complete covering of the entire spectrum. But I do see them as good candidates because they all seem to present a sense of integrity and willingness to do what they believe is right, as opposed to dancing along the party line and making decisions based on opinion polls. But Jackson and Santorum? The biggest political opportunist of all time and a total Ivory Tower dwelling, holier than thou wacko? Hardly.

Originally Posted by PanTheMan

One thing Hillary would bring is a Big Stick with her if she was elected. I would pay BIG BUCKS to watch her B*TCH-SLAP Osama Bin Laden back to the Middle Ages.

I hardly believe that Darth Blondie has the chutzpah to actually accomplish that. Talk about it? Yes. Do it? No. She’s as much of a cause-du-jour, all bark and no bite limp noodle as anyone ever has been. She wouldn’t dare ever step out and take any action that would make her score on “random” (liberal think tank generated) opinion polls take a hit. At least Bill shot up some tents. I doubt that Hillary’s ever even played “Battleship.”

[scaeagles]

On a side note, Jazzman, that is one hot woman with you in the pic. You are a lucky man. Anyway....

Back to the church thing....I am completely aware that people who are involved with leadership in religious organizations can be and are politically active. My only dispute was the "registration drives" at churches, which I've never seen before. I know all sorts of religious people involved with organizations that put out surveys with how candidates have answered certain questions. I have no problem with that, but saying you must vote for "the more Christian" of the candidates is way off. I don't know why religious people should be precluded from having religious views influence their politics or from trying to influence others as to how they vote. It's no less valid a reason than anything else.

As far as Catholics.....is it wrong for the leadership to say it is a sin to vote for a pro-choice candidate? I don't think so. Is it a sin? Not for me to say. The thing is, if you ar a catholic, should you not abide by what the catholic leadership says? If you do not agree with the catholic leadership, fine. Either accept that you may be sinning in the eyes of the leadership (and then presumably in the eyes of God), or do not participate as a Catholic.

But as to the name "demoncrat"....I like it, and may decide to start using it on a regular basis.

[PanTheMan]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

As far as Catholics.....is it wrong for the leadership to say it is a sin to vote for a pro-choice candidate? I don't think so. Is it a sin? Not for me to say. The thing is, if you ar a catholic, should you not abide by what the catholic leadership says? If you do not agree with the catholic leadership, fine. Either accept that you may be sinning in the eyes of the leadership (and then presumably in the eyes of God), or do not participate as a Catholic.

If all non conforming Catholics left the Church, there would be NO ONE in the church. How is it that a Bunch of old Men who never have sex (Hopefully) can say women shouldn't be on birth control if they choose, has always been amazing to me.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

As far as Catholics.....is it wrong for the leadership to say it is a sin to vote for a pro-choice candidate? I don't think so.

Depends on what you mean by "wrong". Legally? Probably not. But I don't consider it proper or particularly ethical for someone in that position to be giving that kind of political advice to their congregation. Go ahead and preach the values, but leave the political descission alone. It's one thing if an individual comes to them for dicussion and advice. But making that kind of blanket statement to a congregation is using the pulpit for something I don't think it should be used for, imo.

Sorry for the "last edited by" on your post, I hit the wrong button. Fortunately I caught my error and managed not to wipe the post out

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Sorry for the "last edited by" on your post, I hit the wrong button. Fortunately I caught my error and managed not to wipe the post out

Oh, yeah - sure. I think that must be what happened when I had my time line wrong regarding hurricanes Hugo and Andrew. I didn't really write that stuff - you edited them, huh????

[PanTheMan]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Depends on what you mean by "wrong". Legally? Probably not. But I don't consider it proper or particularly ethical for someone in that position to be giving that kind of political advice to their congregation. Go ahead and preach the values, but leave the political descission alone.

Jesus Spoke Of Politics "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God, what is God's"

The thing I find REMARKABLE about "Single Issue Voters" #1 being Abortion, is really, What has the Republican party DONE to try to STOP Abortion? Nothing. It will NEVER be outlawed, They dont Explain to their religious base that overturning Roe V. Wade will not make Abortion ILLEGAL, just turn it over to the States to decide. The Far right is AGAINST the ONLY thing that will reduce Abortions- EDUCATION.

Would JESUS Be a Republican?...lol. Would Jesus Stand up on a stage in his Armani Suit and Rolex Watch on T.V.?

OR Would Jesus walk the AIDS Wards offering comfort and Hope. Would Jesus Walk the streets at night helping the Prostitutes?, the Homeless? The Sick? The Poor? Would he be right there to Pull the Switch during Executions? or would he be against the death penalty?

Throwing Stones..... I think he spoke of that too....