Clinton Speaks about Bush-

[wendybeth]

Jesus, though, wouldn't expect the government to do anything for the poor and sick. He would expect those who call him Savior and Lord to be out doing it.

Our current goverment has made much ado about being 'Christian'- so they are exempt because they govern? Bs, Scaegles, and you know it.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Our current goverment has made much ado about being 'Christian'- so they are exempt because they govern? Bs, Scaegles, and you know it.

I think those who oppose the President make a bigger deal about his being Christian then does he......

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Our current goverment has made much ado about being 'Christian'- so they are exempt because they govern? Bs, Scaegles, and you know it.

To the contrary - I know no such thing, In fact, there has been much complaining - here on this board as well, I point out - that the Bush administration would dare have his dreaded faith based initiatives to help the poor and needy. "Separation of church and state!" is the cry. Don't tell me it's bs, WB. The government has always sucked at helping the poor and needy (how much has been spent on the "war on poverty?????), and a new approach to try to integrate faith based organizations was derided wholeheartedly.

[Name]

But from my experience, many faith based organizations seem to help the poor and needy for the publicity.(see my post above)

Or the faith based organizations place far more emphasis on the evangelizing and preaching then they do to actually helping.

[Name]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

To the contrary - I know no such thing, In fact, there has been much complaining - here on this board as well, I point out - that the Bush administration would dare have his dreaded faith based initiatives to help the poor and needy. "Separation of church and state!" is the cry. Don't tell me it's bs, WB. The government has always sucked at helping the poor and needy (how much has been spent on the "war on poverty?????), and a new approach to try to integrate faith based organizations was derided wholeheartedly.

I was sitting at lunch today, and thought, hrmm, there is a way to have the government legally finance faith based initiatives, its even written in law. Its in the tax codes, and its called a write off. Quite simply, if you want to your favorite faith based charitable organization to be better funded, well then give to them, and to ensure that YOUR tax money as a tax payer is going to the organizations that you think they should go to, then write off that money off your taxes. In fact, if the government got out of the business of subsidizing all the charitable organizations, there would be absolutely no bitching or complaining about funding faith based organizations.

So, if you want to fund your favorite charity, and lessen the burden on the government to do it, give to them, it will decrease your tax burden at the end of the year, will ensure your charities(faith based or secular) have the monies they need, and the money that would have gone to the government to use as they see fit will now be going to your favorite charity. I think that a smaller government starts with everyone doing their part to help it become smaller.

Just a thought, and I hope it came out the way I intended it to.