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Old 09-21-2005, 04:40 PM   #1
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Just curious, is there something entirely wrong with the current european system(by this I mean is it not working somehow), has it failed to deliver in some way. I haven't researched the "socialist Euro-copy" ways, so not sure what we would be copying exactly, or how effective or ineffective they are. If you could provide some (unbiased) information on this, that would be great, or I will look into it myself when I have some time. But, if it is a successful system, why would we not want to integrate some of the things that are working into our system to make it better, stronger, more effective?
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Old 09-21-2005, 04:48 PM   #2
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Just curious, is there something entirely wrong with the current european system(by this I mean is it not working somehow), has it failed to deliver in some way. I haven't researched the "socialist Euro-copy" ways, so not sure what we would be copying exactly, or how effective or ineffective they are. If you could provide some (unbiased) information on this, that would be great, or I will look into it myself when I have some time. But, if it is a successful system, why would we not want to integrate some of the things that are working into our system to make it better, stronger, more effective?
Where would you like to start? Would you like to discuss their higher unemployment rates? How about the racism that keeps them from accepting fiscally-sound but partly moslem countries, while letting in white but economically disasterous other countries?

And socialism doesn't work. Human nature.
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Old 09-21-2005, 04:54 PM   #3
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And socialism doesn't work. Human nature.
I think that is dependant on who you read, and what you take from history.

But I believe that the indiginous tribes had a fairly socialist system until the europeans came in and taught them to be "civilized."
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Old 09-21-2005, 04:57 PM   #4
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And socialism doesn't work. Human nature.
Nooooooo! Don't do it! Morrigoon, I loves ya, but don't pull the "Human Nature" defense. As an anthropologist, I beg you: DON'T GO THERE.

I don't have the time right now to post ALL the reasons why and anticipate that I'll have to soon...

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