US Soldiers Trade Iraqi Dead Photos for Porn (This can't be true, can it?)

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

This is clearly just another attempt to make the American Military look evil......which will imho indirectly cause the deaths of our men and women

In my opinion, the actions are what damages the military image, not the reporting of them. No improper actions, no story. If a certain segment of the military doesn't want to be perceived in the way they are, they need to clean up their act. They can't be taking pictures of their prisoners on leashes, naked, and stacked up to the ceiling... or dead and trading them for porn.

You are shooting the messenger.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

In my opinion, the actions are what damages the military image, not the reporting of them. No improper actions, no story. If a certain segment of the military doesn't want to be perceived in the way they are, they need to clean up their act. They can't be taking pictures of their prisoners on leashes, naked, and stacked up to the ceiling... or dead and trading them for porn.

You are shooting the messenger.

I agree but find me a group of 100,000+ individuals who act as saintly as would be required to escpape a agenda driven media?

If the messenger has a malicious agenda he deserves to be shot!

[Prudence]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

I agree but find me a group of 100,000+ individuals who act as saintly as would be required to escpape a agenda driven media?

You don't think that the photos described, presented in that context go beyond individuals not acting "saintly"? I don't consider it my place to micromanage the military. However, some actions are sufficiently egregious that I consider it my right and duty to object.

[Name]

Originally Posted by Prudence

You don't think that the photos described, presented in that context go beyond individuals not acting "saintly"? I don't consider it my place to micromanage the military. However, some actions are sufficiently egregious that I consider it my right and duty to object.

Agree, especially when it is the military that often times is the face of the United States and its citizens to everyone else.....

Not to shift this in another direction, but we can live in our own little isolated island for only so long. As much as it may suck, we live in a growingly more and more one world economy. What the rest of the world thinks of us as a society, can and will affect how it does business with us. And with the state of the amount of imports in relation to the amount of exports, well, we need all the good publicity we can get. A couple of bad eggs out there doing stupid things, is not good for our PR.

And back on the topic.....

Tis better for our media to report on this and make major news of it, thusly keeping the PR a bit better in control, then for them to have said nothing and have another countries media report on it, and have that country blow it farther out of proportion then our own media may or may not have. I think it is excellent PR for us to hear from our own sources firsthand and allow us as citizens to be outraged by the behaviour of our military peoples, so that the rest of the economic world may see that maybe they will want to do more business with us. Or do we like importing more then we export?

Or I could be entirely thinking way off tonight. But I like the argument, and I am sticking with it.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Name

Tis better for our media to report on this and make major news of it, thusly keeping the PR a bit better in control, then for them to have said nothing and have another countries media report on it, and have that country blow it farther out of proportion then our own media may or may not have. I think it is excellent PR for us to hear from our own sources firsthand and allow us as citizens to be outraged by the behaviour of our military peoples, so that the rest of the economic world may see that maybe they will want to do more business with us. Or do we like importing more then we export?

Or I could be entirely thinking way off tonight. But I like the argument, and I am sticking with it.

You know, I didn't consider this. Perhaps this would be the lesser of two evils. It's just that I see so much what can only be described as glee from the left* everytime something like this is reported.....to me this kinda proves that they are not after justice but something a little more political.

It's horrendous and disgusting what these inidviduals(I can't call them soldiers as they gave up that privilege) did and ultimately any thing negative that happens to our troops because of this should be laid at their feet but if these reporters were doing this story for anything less then just plain journalism then they too will share in the blame

*mostly leftist media not anyone here really.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

If the messenger has a malicious agenda he deserves to be shot!

I agree, I'll even help put the blindfold on.

We are talking about Pat Robertson, right?

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

I agree, I'll even help put the blindfold.

We are talking about Pat Robertson, right?