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Old 10-07-2005, 03:57 PM   #31
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Snappity-snap-snap, Traci. That, too, is my main concern/objection, or why I started to feel guilty about meat consumption. Free range! Make it all free range!
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Old 10-07-2005, 11:15 PM   #32
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Old 10-08-2005, 04:21 AM   #33
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Damn. I so want to try goat. You're now the umpteenth person to tell me that it's tasty. Why is there no goat at the grocery store? I suspect I need to find a Halal grocery. Maybe the people at the Gyro House will refer me. They make great food at the Gyro House. I think that's a chain franchise or something, but they basically do their own stuff. I think they're Pakistani. They have great food -- including a lot of actual vegetarian stuff. If you ever come up here, I'll take you and we'll both have yummy meals.
Try a latino meat market. Goat is a staple of sorts and worst case, if they do not carry goat meat, they might be able to tell you where to get it.

Also, a quick google teurned this info up:

ESMGPA members with USDA meat for sale

Brookside Farm - meat available by individual cuts or by the complete carcass. Billy goat carcasses available by order only. All cuts of frozen goat meat shipped UPS. Contact Elizabeth & Mary Krug, 2302 East Schodack Rd., East Schodack, NY 12063. Phone - (518)477-9548, email at E_Krug@msn.com .


Stone & Thistle Farm - retail cuts available year round. Contact Tom & Denise Warren, Kelso Rd., East Meridith, NY 13757. Phone - (607)278-5773, email at warren@catskill.net.
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Old 10-08-2005, 05:58 AM   #34
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I have had goat...I can say it is much better when it is the same goat that made sure to wake up the entire family at 4am.
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:06 AM   #35
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In my particular area, I think I'm more likely to find a halal market than a latino market.
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Old 10-09-2005, 02:48 AM   #36
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Old 10-09-2005, 11:54 AM   #37
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You know, no one said it was bad. I said it twice, it's a personal choice.
Oh, I never meant you'd said that. Sorry! I just got off on a little rant there. I hate when people try to push the concept that it's a true sin. I know you'd never do that, babe.

Mmmm tasty fuzzy babies....
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Old 10-10-2005, 02:54 PM   #38
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Is celery really that savory and flavor inducing when cooked? Hmm, I think I need to cook with more celery if that's the case, unless I'm misunderstanding you.
Carrots and Celery are used VERY frequently in cooking. They are two major parts of the mirepoix put in a stock pot with water and meat parts to make meat stock. They are, in fact, a very large component in the flavor of the stock.
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Old 10-11-2005, 05:25 PM   #39
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I love my suede and leather jackets.
Me too! Only make that a singular jacket and add shoes.

I also buy the expensive free-range vegetarian eggs.

For me, if I enjoyed the taste and texture of meat, I'd eat it. It sure would make many aspects of my life easier. As it is, I can't stand the stuff. But I'm not bothered by people around me eating fuzzy baby animals--enjoy!

(I am offended by the smell of pork products and those nasty turkey legs they sell at WDW. You can eat 'em, but I might not hang out with you while you do. And I'll offer you a mint when you're finished. )
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Old 10-11-2005, 07:05 PM   #40
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It was an odd turn of events the week that Audra and I stopped eating meat. She was reading a book about an animal lover. I was reading about low-protein ice cream (hoping to find a treat for my no-protein beau.) And from the vice cream site, I stumbled into a "why vegan" essay. And read a little something about my main protein staple, chicken.

The essay, which I couldn't find again--but which your basic vegan site can tell you-- described how the chicken advertising staff had us all fooled. Look at your basic boneless skinless chicken nutrition info, and you'll see that it's hardly different from beef in terms of cholesterol.

It also talked about which came first, the chicken or the salmonella? No pictures, I promise:
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It described how Jane Q. Chicken comes from the big farms to us. Apparently, most chicken carcasses are cleaned in a big vat of water. Each chicken is plunged into the cold water and that causes irrigation of its bowels. Into the water. Into which the next chicken is dipped. And it, in turn, loses its ****. Literally. So the last chicken in the batch is dipped in mostly chicken ****. And the water that drips out of your chicken when you take it out of the bag? The self-same water.


And that is why I no longer eat meat.

I've actually never cared much for the taste of meat. Since 15 I've avoided beef. I tried vegging out in college but didn't get enough protein. Now I eat a small amount of fish, but mostly a lot of beans, lentils, and soy. My new delight is tempeh. Mmmm, tempeh. Love it!

My newest veggie recipe (vegan if you switch to soy cheese):

prepare a cup of rice and slice two italian tofurkey sausages. Stir them together with a cup of marinara sauce of your choice. Hollow out four green, orange, red, or yellow peppers, and stuff them with the filling. Top with a little cheese. Bake at 400 for 45 minutes. Delish!
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