Lost

[Ghoulish Delight]

Not the best episode, imo. Very predictable in some respects. Like, suddenly Rose was the focus, meanwhile they confirm that there's another group of survivors. Anyone surprised in the least that Bernard was one of them? And the story kinda went nowhere. We learned that, um, those guys were all survivors from the rear of the plane. And...um...oh, they think the raft guys are dead. That's it. No new mysteries, no character progress. Nada. Feh.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Bernard is WHITE!!!!!!

Well, you weren't expecting it.

Question is, why did the survivors in the back of the plane go all Lord of the Flies, what happened to the rest of them, and why is Rambolina all up in everyone's grill?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Well, I bet they didn't have a doctor. No doctor=lots of death. Lots of death=desparate survival mode. I suppose Rambolina just took initiative. I mean, the other choices for leader seem to be old Bernard, useless blonde chick, and tribal warrior dude. I guess she was bossiest, so she won.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Not a favorite episode. There was a lot of goodness towards the end, but mostly it was kind of 'meh'. I'm really looking forward to learning more about the other survivors, though. My long ramble:

Let me ask you, those big metal "back doors", the ones that Hurley takes Rose through (and that served as Desmond's exit)...have we ever seen them before, sometime in the first season? Because if not, they could find a tiny secret hatch, but NOT two ENORMOUS metal doors?

I liked Sayid's Chernobyl remark. Gave me chills. I think Desmond is a liar, liar and he didn't just happen upon that hatch; I think he's involved in whatever this island plo tis.

As soon as I saw a white man in his 50s walking towards the Rafters, I thought, "I'M SO RACIST! THAT'S ROSE'S HUSBAND!" This whole time I'm thinking, "Wow, Rose is either a lot younger than I think or Adebisi (that tall black actor's name when he was on Oz with the actor who plays Michael) is a lot older." Man. It's not 1950, Audra! I LOVE that Adebisi is nice. He played a real badass on Oz.

You know, I really liked that one scene with Matthew Fox and Michelle Rodriguez from last season. I really liked her in a sort of subdued, non-tough role, and I thought, "Wow, she was cast against type." Ah, how naive I was! She was in FULL Resident Evil mode tonight and I f**king hated her guts. Sawyer can be an ass, but Jesus honey, you're not a BAD guy so stop beating the s**t out of a guy who has been shot and is seriously looking ill, like he might have gangrene/poison arm! or something. And THEN to show them flirting in the next episode? VOMIT. Just VOMIT. All over myself. I did love the blackout and then..."Bitch." That made me laugh. The rock toss made me smirk.

Hurley, losing DJ Qualls as your best-friend? Nothing to cry about, honey. Aside from showering and having a towel scene, what's Kate's stupid Hatch job? As for the towel scene...MAN! You've SEEN her in a bikini, Jack! Heck, you've probably seen her naked. What? You have special changing caves now? How's a towel any different? Unless it's cause she was all dripping wet.

I really did like the dream sequence, though. That was neat and funny. And I'm REALLY glad Jin isn't pretending that he can't speak English. Though, Jin baby, 40 days on an Island with only English speaking people and you haven't picked up a few coherent phrases by now? C'mon.

Charlie actually irritated me less in this episode. I did like him giving Claire the peanut butter, and her expression. I like her a lot. The whole music montage at the end was great. I was all glowing with warmth after an episode that annoyed me a lot. As soon as her vagina is all healed up, they'll have sex and then he'll start snorting the Virgin Mary.

I do love the other survivor plot line. You've got one group of survivors and you think they're it. And you watch and think, "My God, how could it be any worse!?" And then you meet the tail end survivors, who have obviously been relentlessly attacked since they crashed, and you realize how much worse it could have been for Jack's gang. Not having a doctor would obviously hurt them; some of the crash survivors probably died from injuries. But I think they've mostly been tormented by the Others.

Oh, and though it was a predictable thing to do, I really loved that Sun (is that how her name is spelled) buried the bottle, keeping the Islander's hope of a rescue mission alive.

"Island Baby" was a treat, as was Locke's reaction. It was a total Jimmy Fallon moment for the Stepfather, who couldn't seem to control his laughter.

Oh, I really did love that happy (calm before the **** STORM) food sharing moment.

Next week: THE OTHERS! I hope. Rock on!

Also, next week: Jin gets naked! I hope. If God really is good. Rock on!

Also, I dread the following:

M. Rodriguez (Ana?) and Jack share a flirty scene last season. Implies they'll hook up eventually. Meanwhile, Kate and Jack finally hook up. Ana and Sawyer look like they're in for a tussle. Then the two halves of the plane are reunited AND you've got a love square. Sawyer really likes Kate. Kate secretly wants to bang Sawyer because he's hot and she pities him. Ana really likes Jack but has had fun banging Sawyer. Jack recalls he had a thing for Ana, but is kind of in love with Kate...or maybe he's meant to be in love with Ana. Kate thinks she's in love with Jack but she's also drawn to Sawyer...maybe she loves Sawyer? Me thinks Ana and Kate won't get along so well.

I'm worried it will turn into LOST Temptation Island LOST

God.

Also, someone give Shannon more to do, DAMMIT!

[Ghoulish Delight]

As to the metal doors...1) they didn't find huge f'ing pirate ship either. 2) the implication is that they are pretty well concealed behind overgrowth. Hurley, who knew where it was, had to scan a bit to find it when he was showing rose, and even then she didn't see it until hurley moved the vines aside. Same with when the other survivors brought the raft dudes to their bunker, they were right up next to it and didn't see it until Ana moved the vines. So the other survivors were lucky and stumbled on it, the rest weren't.

The dream sequence was great. I love how they tried to sneak the fully cooke plate of steak past us. I'm like, "What the hell, steak in a box?!"

[BarTopDancer]

I wonder what location the other survivors are at. Did anyone notice any DHARMA symbols?

I do not like Michelle Rodriguez in this. I had my hopes up that she wouldn't be playing her typical role; then again I'm not sure she can play anything else.

I wasn't too disappointed in this episode, looking at it more as a break then anything else. We are left with more questions like:

Are they in the same hatch? (I think no)
Where are the people who should have been in that hatch?
Why is Sawyer still wearing his shirt
What location is the second hatch?
Why is Sayid still wearing his shirt?
Is the island a nuc site?

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

As to the metal doors...1) they didn't find huge f'ing pirate ship either. 2) the implication is that they are pretty well concealed behind overgrowth. Hurley, who knew where it was, had to scan a bit to find it when he was showing rose, and even then she didn't see it until hurley moved the vines aside. Same with when the other survivors brought the raft dudes to their bunker, they were right up next to it and didn't see it until Ana moved the vines. So the other survivors were lucky and stumbled on it, the rest weren't.

The dream sequence was great. I love how they tried to sneak the fully cooke plate of steak past us. I'm like, "What the hell, steak in a box?!"

Yes, that's about the time I thought, "Hmmm, tis a dream."

I don't care about the vines. The vines looked like they were diguising large doors. Heh.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

EH, you're cracking me up.

I, too, assumed Bernard was black. Or rather, I assumed that they'd cast him as black. I guess I'm prejudiced regarding casting.

Survivors from the tail....yeah, no doctor....but come on. I kept thinking of that South Park where the parents are all put in jail and the kids take over, telling tales of "the long long ago" when they were civilized, which turns out to have only been a few days. They're going to have to do a really good job to convince me how a group of middle class Americans/Australians can turn to feral dictatorship in under 2 months. It's one thing if they're suspicious or frightened of new people, especially because of the oddness of the island, but the latina leader chick was rather ridiculous. "What I say goes"? Then kicks the sh!t out of a guy with a bullet in his shoulder? Yeeeaaaah.

I'm glad Hurley fixed his problem. Although if you're worried about people squabbling over food, wouldn't they squabble anyway when you hand it out all at once? I expected to at least see some bartering...."can I have some crackers for my peanut butter?"....but maybe they'll address that later. I assumed they were supposed to eat everything that night, but IRL I'm sure people would secret things away for leverage later.

BTW, Hurley only had problems when he hid information. And why the hell doesn't a guy worth $65 mil get a stomach staple, or at least a stylist??

Sooo....they've basically said that the Others are not these tail survivors, right? The Others have a boat. The Others have Walt. Now I'm trying to remember what the people on the boat looked like, but all I can remember is the Aussie guy with the beard. There was at least one woman and a black man, right?

When I found out Jin was speaking English in a dream only I had a good laugh at all you commercial-watching speculators. Except Gn2, of course.

Yeah, two hatches are in different places, and the tail group hatch has nothing in it - just a cement hole in the ground. But does it have a computer??

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Survivors from the tail....yeah, no doctor....but come on. I kept thinking of that South Park where the parents are all put in jail and the kids take over, telling tales of "the long long ago" when they were civilized, which turns out to have only been a few days. They're going to have to do a really good job to convince me how a group of middle class Americans/Australians can turn to feral dictatorship in under 2 months.

Hmmm. My point is that I think they've been regularly attacked by the Others for two months. I think members of their group have been repeatedly assaulted, kidnapped and murdered. And so any person they don't recognize, automatically assume it's an Other. Much like the Losters from Season 1, one of the Others may have even been pretending to be a survivor. So, I think Ana-Annoys-the-Crap-Out-of-Me has some sort of military background, or maybe she's a cop. Instead of a doctor becoming a sort of leader figure, she actually assumed command of a group of people that were being systematically reduced. The girl and Bernarnd weren't exactly Lord of the Flies insane; it was mostly Ana and the large black Dude who played Adebisis on Oz, and who will hopefully have a real name next week. His disposition was kind once he realized they really were fellow survivors.

So, bascially we've seen a group of survivors who had it pretty easy compared to the tail enders. If I were being regularly attacked, I'd become pretty friggin' paranoid and militant. And untrusting. So it's not really Lord of the Flies so much as they've had a MUCH harder time of it. I mean, 40 people can do a lot to help each other. But a handful of castaways? What if none of them knew how to hunt or identify poisonous berries. Heh.

It'll be interesting to see their flashbacks, and to see how they mix in with the rest of the survivors once they meet up.

As for the Others, they're island hillbillies!

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Survivors from the tail....yeah, no doctor....but come on. I kept thinking of that South Park where the parents are all put in jail and the kids take over, telling tales of "the long long ago" when they were civilized, which turns out to have only been a few days. They're going to have to do a really good job to convince me how a group of middle class Americans/Australians can turn to feral dictatorship in under 2 months.

Hmmm. My point is that I think they've been regularly attacked by the Others for two months. I think members of their group have been repeatedly assaulted, kidnapped and murdered. And so any person they don't recognize, automatically assume it's an Other. Much like the Losters from Season 1, one of the Others may have even been pretending to be a survivor. So, I think Ana-Annoys-the-Crap-Out-of-Me has some sort of military background, or maybe she's a cop. Instead of a doctor becoming a sort of leader figure, she actually assumed command of a group of people that were being systematically reduced. The girl and Bernarnd weren't exactly Lord of the Flies insane; it was mostly Ana and the large black Dude who played Adebisis on Oz, and who will hopefully have a real name next week. His disposition was kind once he realized they really were fellow survivors.

So, bascially we've seen a group of survivors who had it pretty easy compared to the tail enders. If I were being regularly attacked, I'd become pretty friggin' paranoid and militant. And untrusting. So it's not really Lord of the Flies so much as they've had a MUCH harder time of it. I mean, 40 people can do a lot to help each other. But a handful of castaways? What if none of them knew how to hunt or identify poisonous berries. Heh.

It'll be interesting to see their flashbacks, and to see how they mix in with the rest of the survivors once they meet up.

As for the Others, they're island hillbillies!