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Old 11-17-2005, 01:16 AM   #111
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Theory ahead!

What if the Others are really people from the other 5 stations or one of the 5. The Dharma Initative left them behind for some reason (part of the experiment?).

And that knife. A military knife. Ya, it's a collecters item but let's say one of the Others had it. Perhaps Dharma is a military project?

I think AL is military or a cop. She has used a gun before, she is trained in observation and interrogation.
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Old 11-17-2005, 09:12 AM   #112
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Theory ahead!

What if the Others are really people from the other 5 stations or one of the 5. The Dharma Initative left them behind for some reason (part of the experiment?).
I highly doubt it. Goodwin seemed genuinely surprised to see that radio. Unlikely that they knew about the bunkers, but left all the stuff there.

According to my Replay, the credits rolled at 10:01. And even if it were extended, the last 5 minutes were things we've already seen!
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Old 11-17-2005, 11:29 AM   #113
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"(that guy) wasn't a good person. That's why he wasn't taken. Children are fine."

I love the vague stuff! Awesomeness. "A good person" could mean anything - good to turn into slaves, good to brainwash, good to sacrifice to the devil, good to eat. A freakin' shopping list!

I just wish he'd said more, of course.

Ana-Lucia is military of some kind. But she had a bunch of drinks before the flight. I doubt she was working, but I'd be she has something to do with Sayid, either right then or in the past. Especially since she just killed his love.

She was also an order-barking bitch from day one. This did not make me like her any more than I did before. I wish Sayid would kill her in the next episode.

Funny to watch Bernard fall to pieces, while his wife was so stoic on the other side of the island.

You gotta love the worst-case scenario - no water or supplies of any kind because the tail landed in the ocean. No alcohol for wounds. Far less of them, and the crazy Others all over them. Were there more "good people" in this group, or were they just easier prey for the Others? I'm thinking the latter, even after two of their guys were killed.

BTD, I didn't even connect the teddy bear, good call.

Why is this bunker cleared out, except for one obvious box left over? Did there used to be a button in there? They did not encounter the numbers at all.

I have to admit I didn't like the choices they made for the guy that was interrogated by Ana. He should have done more pleading, more denying. As it was he just sat there and stared at her, and I don't believe anyone who wasn't an Other would do that.
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Old 11-17-2005, 11:56 AM   #114
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I have to admit I didn't like the choices they made for the guy that was interrogated by Ana. He should have done more pleading, more denying. As it was he just sat there and stared at her, and I don't believe anyone who wasn't an Other would do that.
Well, you have to look at the flow of the ep, too. When she first locked him in there, he was pretty vocal about his objection. Then we skip a couple of days. How long should he have been begging and pleading? I don't think I'd have been after a day or two - why waste breath?
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why all the anamossity against AL? shes a survivor and IMO is the only thing thats kept party II alive (or uncaptured) until now. no one in the group was doin jack but dying or falling apart. yeah, shes tough and loud but from what I can tell has plenty of reasons to be.

ok, so she mucked up and shot the blondie. she'll feel bad bout it, sayid will surely wanna whoop her good for it, but still....overall in that situation failure to act = shallow grave.
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:34 PM   #116
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Why is this bunker cleared out, except for one obvious box left over? Did there used to be a button in there? They did not encounter the numbers at all.
When they first took them (the raft guys) to their bunker a few weeks ago I wondered if it was really empty or they just hadn't gotten into the inner chamber. The bunker on the other side of the island seemed to have outside chambers/passageways before you go into the actual bunker part.

Ana-Lucia is even more annoying this week than last. I agree she must have some sort of military background, but she can't be that good if she was lost without Mr. Eko when he went with Jin to find Michael.
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:47 PM   #117
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Well, you have to look at the flow of the ep, too. When she first locked him in there, he was pretty vocal about his objection. Then we skip a couple of days. How long should he have been begging and pleading? I don't think I'd have been after a day or two - why waste breath?
When he was thrown in he said "Let me out." Not "I didnt' do it" or "I was on the plane!" They did not show him denying it enough. Obviously it was done this way so that the viewers would agree with Ana. I think it made it less believable.

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why all the anamossity against AL? shes a survivor and IMO is the only thing thats kept party II alive (or uncaptured) until now. no one in the group was doin jack but dying or falling apart. yeah, shes tough and loud but from what I can tell has plenty of reasons to be.
She was tough and loud before the real trouble even started, and instead of discussing things, she barks condescendingly.

She also threw an innocent man in a pit and starved him for days, and shot at a moving blur in the bushes that ended up being an innocent person. I'm sure she had some horrible past but that's only an explanation for the fact that she's a dangerous jerk.
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When he was thrown in he said "Let me out." Not "I didnt' do it" or "I was on the plane!" They did not show him denying it enough. Obviously it was done this way so that the viewers would agree with Ana.
I thought they were trying to make it look like he was an Other to throw the viewers off of Goodwin be an Other. But, being somewhat conspiratorial, I suspected he was an other when he was making the fire so efficiently.

But I do wonder....was he really in the Peace Corps? Does that somehow come into play, or was it just a cover story.
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Old 11-17-2005, 01:17 PM   #119
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When he was thrown in he said "Let me out." Not "I didnt' do it" or "I was on the plane!" They did not show him denying it enough. Obviously it was done this way so that the viewers would agree with Ana. I think it made it less believable.
You didn't hear him screaming let me out of here? The camera wasn't on him but you could hear him screaming.

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I agree. And you can't really say that she is the reason they are still alive since the true Other was with the group. Of course he was until she killed him.

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Yup, that she did. But being in that situation, tormented by the Others, seeing the kids kidnapped, hearing unaudiable voices but not seeing the people and knowing that there are people out there who are trying to cause you harm would make people do very irrational and stupid things. After knowing how the Others snuck up on the beach and overpowered the Tailies like they did I can't really blame her for shooting first. I think this episode tried to make AL a sympathic character and at least for me it worked; to a point.
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Old 11-17-2005, 05:00 PM   #120
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You didn't hear him screaming let me out of here? The camera wasn't on him but you could hear him screaming.
Like I said, that's all he said. He did not deny anything.
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