Riding crop costumes go bye bye

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

See, this is the probelem as I see it - Disneyland has long abandoned this "Size 12" standard - and it appears you are arguing that they shouldn't have, because "under size 12" is still considered a cultural norm for "attractiveness" - not that you personally feel this way - you are just taking Disney to task for not reinstating it, or that's how it's coming across.

I used the term "size 12" because you mentioned it. I couldn't point to a line of increasingly heavy people and say "there, that's where they get too big to be attractive, so whatever size they are is beyond the limit." I could, however, look between two people, interview them, and find out which are more able to fill the role I'm casting for.

I guess my question would be, where does it stop? Do they make costumes for size 24? Size 144? Is a person just above whatever increment they decide to stop at being discriminated against? Who decides? I sure as hell wouldn't be able to.

Sure Disney is within it's rights to require weight standards (though actually that might not be true if my recolection of recent stewardess lawsuits are correct) but I don't know why you would bring that up unless you feel the current crop of CMs are to "unattractive" for the "show."

I do feel that I would be cool with them putting a more focus on this.

It's like saying I have no problem with gay lifestyles, but I wish California would reinstate and enforce it's anti-sodimy laws - not that I believe in them becasue well, some of my best friends are gay.

I am fine with the movies casting attractive people for attractive parts. I don't mind that an unattractive person has a snowballs chance in hell of having a movie star career. Do you? Even though you may know some unattractive people? Even though I know that I personally would have that same snowball's chance in hell.

To restate - I have no problem with people that I'm not physically attracted to, but I hope showbusiness will continue to employ hotties, because I like looking at hotties. Doesn't everyone?

I know it's all hip to say that the movies are so fake and blah blah blah but come on, everybody likes eyecandy. And isn't unreality the point?

Perhaps I'm missing something in your posts, but that is how they have come across, and why I can see that someone might take offense.

My thanks to Chris for engaging me in conversation instead of condemning me without pointing to what I'm doing wrong.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I know it's all hip to say that the movies are so fake and blah blah blah but come on, everybody likes eyecandy. And isn't unreality the point?

I know you like to "speak the truth" (like a comic attempting to say what we're all thinking) but I think you're off-base here. Hip? I dunno about hip, but I much prefer eye candy that looks, well, more like me. Like, for instance: the woman I am most attracted to in the whole bunch of Disney onliner geeks is BluePeople. That's right. Plump, gorgeous Gretchen. Over everybody else. I'd much rather watch her in a movie than Jennifer Aniston. That's just my taste. Please don't imply that I am, or anyone else is, wishing for less plasticism in their pallate because it's "hip."

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I guess my question would be, where does it stop? Do they make costumes for size 24? Size 144? Is a person just above whatever increment they decide to stop at being discriminated against? Who decides? I sure as hell wouldn't be able to.

Why not tailor the costume to the person who can play the role the best? It appears Disney is no longer imposing a size standard, why do you think they should? It's not like they are going out to Target to buy the costumes (yet) they are making them specially for the park.

I have no problem with people that I'm not physically attracted to, but I hope showbusiness will continue to employ hotties, because I like looking at hotties. Doesn't everyone?

Um, no - at least not in the standardized homoginized airbrushed and enhanced sense - which your posts continue to suggest is what you are refering to (a cultural norm that fits within some dress size or tonage). Like I said maybe my aesthetic may be all out of whack, but I find real people sexy and Hollywood hotness kind of - boring and overdone. But I'm only speaking for myself here.