Sad Sad day for free speech - Page 3

Fab · 12-17-2005, 04:07 AM

What, they don't make "off" buttons any more? When Alice is in the car, we listen to a CD in the morning, as it's either filth or hate. Moving Stern to Sirius won't change that here, he doesn't even get played here.
As a parent, it's my responsibility to filter what gets into my kid's head. She came home from school today and asked me what chronic masturbation is, an eighth grader used the phrase to insult another eighth grader. After considering the fishing addict lie, I told her the truth, and she was completely and utterly disgusted. "That's what made it such a funny insult to them." I said.
So, should I pull her out of school? I went to private school - Born Again Christian Private School, in fact, and there was a lot more sex and sex talk going on there than at the public school I went back to upon being thrown out. (Halloween, forks, Ozzy, headmaster's lawn, long story.)
No matter what you do, some stuff's gonna get heard by your kid. Fact of life. But I also feel there's things out there a lot more obscene than talk of boobies and farting. Like the Patriot Act. But that's a different thread (and yes, KY, I did read it!)
Your mileage may vary!

Fab · 12-17-2005, 04:08 AM

What, they don't make "off" buttons any more? When Alice is in the car, we listen to a CD in the morning, as it's either filth or hate. Moving Stern to Sirius won't change that here, he doesn't even get played here.
As a parent, it's my responsibility to filter what gets into my kid's head. She came home from school today and asked me what chronic masturbation is, an eighth grader used the phrase to insult another eighth grader. After considering the fishing addict lie, I told her the truth, and she was completely and utterly disgusted. "That's what made it such a funny insult to them." I said.
So, should I pull her out of school? I went to private school - Born Again Christian Private School, in fact, and there was a lot more sex and sex talk going on there than at the public school I went back to upon being thrown out. (Halloween, forks, Ozzy, headmaster's lawn, long story.)
No matter what you do, some stuff's gonna get heard by your kid. Fact of life. But I also feel there's things out there a lot more obscene than talk of boobies and farting. Like the Patriot Act. But that's a different thread (and yes, KY, I did read it!)
Your mileage may vary!

cstephens · 12-17-2005, 05:59 AM

I ended up starting to listen to Howard by accident a couple years ago. All of my shows that I listen to in the morning end at 10am, and on days when I wouldn't get to work until after that time, there wasn't anything else to listen to, so I ended up listening to Howard. I did like listening to some of his interviews, and there were times when he would be interesting, but other times, it was just potty humour and the like, which isn't my thing. And the sex stuff wasn't offensive to me - it was just boring. I've heard other people do similar things that I found funny, but for some reason, his approach didn't do it for me.

What really was turning me off his show was Robin though. She irritates me to no end. She's like a really bad version of Ed McMahon. She goes along with pretty much everything he says and rarely adds anything original to it, and then there's what sounds like her fake laugh.

So now, I don't know what to listen to after 10am. I liked Adam Carolla ok on Loveline, but I'm not sure I'm all that interested in listening to him that much more.

Cadaverous Pallor · 12-17-2005, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fab

As a parent, it's my responsibility to filter what gets into my kid's head.

Hear, hear! You must spread some Mojo around before giving it to Fab again.

€uroMeinke · 12-17-2005, 12:25 PM

I don't know, I 've got to wonder if the impact of naughty words and humor would vanish if there weren't so many restrictions as to increase their "naughtyness" value. Kids hear the stuff plenty of placces whre there are no controls. But I think for most people you pass a certain threshold and the forbidden becomes boring.

BarTopDancer · 12-19-2005, 12:16 PM

It is a parents responsiblity to filter what their kid is listening to not the governments or a commission (FCC).

We were all going along fine until one day OMG there was a second of boobie on TV. EEK! What is the world coming too! Surely Howard or Opie and Andy must have caused it! The very fiber of our morality is being corrupted by potty humor. Let's fine everyone and make sure the innocent children are protected form something that parents should be protecting them from anyways. Then the FCC started going crazy fining for things that PB (pre-boob) were acceptable.

I fully agree that Howard started pushing the boundaries after the 'incident' and went as far as he could go after he signed a deal with Sirius. But really, for nearly 20 years he was acceptable for the public airwaves then one day he wasn't. It's sad that more people don't see what's wrong with this situation.

Not Afraid · 12-19-2005, 07:16 PM

The FCC has always been a strong protector of the airwaves. This happened long before Howard didn't invent being rude and boring on the air.

BarTopDancer · 12-19-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid

The FCC has always been a strong protector of the airwaves. This happened long before Howard didn't invent being rude and boring on the air.

They didn't fine him for being boring

. If you find him rude and boring no one is making you listen. And that's the point. They started fining him (and others) for things they did PB and wern't fined for instead of saying Hey, turn it off if you don't like it. I don't listen to Christian radio or watch Christian TV but I'm not trying to get it off the air because I find a lot of what they say offensive. I just don't listen.

€uroMeinke · 12-19-2005, 07:38 PM

Honestly I was more pissed by Sandra Tsing Loh being dropped from KCRW for not bleeping the F-word from her commentary. Of course that was done out of reactionary fear of the FCC, but I was dissappinted that the leadership there quickly made the cut to someone who's commentary was nowhere near Howard Stern's.

To be sure the eventually apologized and made nice, but to me it underscores the self-censorship through intimidation and fear that government agencies sometimes possess

CoasterMatt · 12-19-2005, 10:16 PM

Dec 19 1941

Twelve days after Pearl Harbor, Franklin D. Roosevelt under authority of Congress, created the Office of Censorship. The bureau had discretion over communications with foreign countries. Participation by domestic publishers was "voluntary".

12-17-2005, 04:07 AM	#21
Fab Señora Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 124	What, they don't make "off" buttons any more? When Alice is in the car, we listen to a CD in the morning, as it's either filth or hate. Moving Stern to Sirius won't change that here, he doesn't even get played here. As a parent, it's my responsibility to filter what gets into my kid's head. She came home from school today and asked me what chronic masturbation is, an eighth grader used the phrase to insult another eighth grader. After considering the fishing addict lie, I told her the truth, and she was completely and utterly disgusted. "That's what made it such a funny insult to them." I said. So, should I pull her out of school? I went to private school - Born Again Christian Private School, in fact, and there was a lot more sex and sex talk going on there than at the public school I went back to upon being thrown out. (Halloween, forks, Ozzy, headmaster's lawn, long story.) No matter what you do, some stuff's gonna get heard by your kid. Fact of life. But I also feel there's things out there a lot more obscene than talk of boobies and farting. Like the Patriot Act. But that's a different thread (and yes, KY, I did read it!) Your mileage may vary!
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Fab Señora Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 124	What, they don't make "off" buttons any more? When Alice is in the car, we listen to a CD in the morning, as it's either filth or hate. Moving Stern to Sirius won't change that here, he doesn't even get played here. As a parent, it's my responsibility to filter what gets into my kid's head. She came home from school today and asked me what chronic masturbation is, an eighth grader used the phrase to insult another eighth grader. After considering the fishing addict lie, I told her the truth, and she was completely and utterly disgusted. "That's what made it such a funny insult to them." I said. So, should I pull her out of school? I went to private school - Born Again Christian Private School, in fact, and there was a lot more sex and sex talk going on there than at the public school I went back to upon being thrown out. (Halloween, forks, Ozzy, headmaster's lawn, long story.) No matter what you do, some stuff's gonna get heard by your kid. Fact of life. But I also feel there's things out there a lot more obscene than talk of boobies and farting. Like the Patriot Act. But that's a different thread (and yes, KY, I did read it!) Your mileage may vary!
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12-17-2005, 05:59 AM	#23
cstephens Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 231	I ended up starting to listen to Howard by accident a couple years ago. All of my shows that I listen to in the morning end at 10am, and on days when I wouldn't get to work until after that time, there wasn't anything else to listen to, so I ended up listening to Howard. I did like listening to some of his interviews, and there were times when he would be interesting, but other times, it was just potty humour and the like, which isn't my thing. And the sex stuff wasn't offensive to me - it was just boring. I've heard other people do similar things that I found funny, but for some reason, his approach didn't do it for me. What really was turning me off his show was Robin though. She irritates me to no end. She's like a really bad version of Ed McMahon. She goes along with pretty much everything he says and rarely adds anything original to it, and then there's what sounds like her fake laugh. So now, I don't know what to listen to after 10am. I liked Adam Carolla ok on Loveline, but I'm not sure I'm all that interested in listening to him that much more. __________________ Disneyland Resort trip reports and restaurant reviews and more The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return.
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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	I don't know, I 've got to wonder if the impact of naughty words and humor would vanish if there weren't so many restrictions as to increase their "naughtyness" value. Kids hear the stuff plenty of placces whre there are no controls. But I think for most people you pass a certain threshold and the forbidden becomes boring. __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	It is a parents responsiblity to filter what their kid is listening to not the governments or a commission (FCC). We were all going along fine until one day OMG there was a second of boobie on TV. EEK! What is the world coming too! Surely Howard or Opie and Andy must have caused it! The very fiber of our morality is being corrupted by potty humor. Let's fine everyone and make sure the innocent children are protected form something that parents should be protecting them from anyways. Then the FCC started going crazy fining for things that PB (pre-boob) were acceptable. I fully agree that Howard started pushing the boundaries after the 'incident' and went as far as he could go after he signed a deal with Sirius. But really, for nearly 20 years he was acceptable for the public airwaves then one day he wasn't. It's sad that more people don't see what's wrong with this situation. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	The FCC has always been a strong protector of the airwaves. This happened long before Howard didn't invent being rude and boring on the air.
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12-19-2005, 07:38 PM	#29
€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	Honestly I was more pissed by Sandra Tsing Loh being dropped from KCRW for not bleeping the F-word from her commentary. Of course that was done out of reactionary fear of the FCC, but I was dissappinted that the leadership there quickly made the cut to someone who's commentary was nowhere near Howard Stern's. To be sure the eventually apologized and made nice, but to me it underscores the self-censorship through intimidation and fear that government agencies sometimes possess __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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