Why believe me when I said I loved you when you know I've been a liar all my life?

mousepod · 01-31-2006, 12:03 PM

My big problem with the "wartime" justification is that I don't really see a correlation between the war in Iraq (which isn't about terrorism no matter how you slice it) and the need for the executive branch to invade Americans' privacy. I have a feeling that if the prez could justify the "war on drugs" or the "war on child porn" as a legit "war", he would take advantage that way as well. The next thing you know, they'd be subpoenaing search engines for IP addresses.

wendybeth · 01-31-2006, 12:21 PM

Why, I'm sure they'd never do that, Mousepod.

We all know damn good and well that were the shoe on the other political foot the Repub's would be screaming bloody murder, Scaeagles. I honestly don't know how you or anyone else who truly loves this country and what we used to stand for can justify this. The claim that 'well, other Admins have done it, they were just better at hiding it' doesn't wash at all. Btw, there are breaks in the ranks at the White House:Palace Revolt.

Seems there are still some people of integrity in the government. At least, there were.

scaeagles · 01-31-2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth

We all know damn good and well that were the shoe on the other political foot the Repub's would be screaming bloody murder, Scaeagles.

Well, no, actually I wouldn't. I could just as easily say that feminist groups would have had a hissy if it was a Republican president having an affair with an intern.

It's like Bosnia. It's like bombings on Iraq or the Sudan (the aspirin factory that was supposedly manuafacturing chemical weapons). I am not automatically supportive of republican positions and dismissive of democrat positions. Please note the earlier message regarding Bush and the border.

SacTown Chronic · 01-31-2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mousepod

My big problem with the "wartime" justification is that I don't really see a correlation between the war in Iraq (which isn't about terrorism no matter how you slice it) and the need for the executive branch to invade Americans' privacy.

Mr. Bush declared an end to major combat operations in Iraq on May 3, 2003. I assume the wartime justification for listening to me talk dirty on the phone to my boss's wife is the so-called war on terror.

Gemini Cricket · 01-31-2006, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

...listening to me talk dirty on the phone to my boss's wife...

Well, who wouldn't want to tune in to that?

01-31-2006, 12:03 PM	#1
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	My big problem with the "wartime" justification is that I don't really see a correlation between the war in Iraq (which isn't about terrorism no matter how you slice it) and the need for the executive branch to invade Americans' privacy. I have a feeling that if the prez could justify the "war on drugs" or the "war on child porn" as a legit "war", he would take advantage that way as well. The next thing you know, they'd be subpoenaing search engines for IP addresses. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Why, I'm sure they'd never do that, Mousepod. We all know damn good and well that were the shoe on the other political foot the Repub's would be screaming bloody murder, Scaeagles. I honestly don't know how you or anyone else who truly loves this country and what we used to stand for can justify this. The claim that 'well, other Admins have done it, they were just better at hiding it' doesn't wash at all. Btw, there are breaks in the ranks at the White House:Palace Revolt. Seems there are still some people of integrity in the government. At least, there were. __________________
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