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Old 02-07-2006, 11:13 AM   #31
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One of the Senators yesterday, I can't recall which one, mentioned that this administration has a pre-1776 mindset.
Lol!!!!

While I find it amusing that so many Repubs are now jumping on the illegal wiretapping bandwagon, the cynical part of me knows that it is only because they are looking at the post-Bush political landscape and jockeying for position. Bunch of weasels, all of them. (Dems included).
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:17 PM   #32
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Gonzales mentioned yesterday (with a straight face, mind you) that other presidents had authorized electronic surveillance including Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, etc.

Can I really trust the intellect of an attorney general who thinks that Washington and Lincoln authorized electronic surveillance.
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Gonzales mentioned yesterday (with a straight face, mind you) that other presidents had authorized electronic surveillance including Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, etc.

Can I really trust the intellect of an attorney general who thinks that Washington and Lincoln authorized electronic surveillance.

Lol!!!!!!!
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:28 PM   #35
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Can I really trust the intellect of an attorney general who thinks that Washington and Lincoln authorized electronic surveillance.
Nonesense, I'm sure the langauge included phrases like "by any means necessary" - just becasue the yet invented media wasn't spelled out in name - I'm sure the intent would have included such technologies.

Afterall, isn't this how the current President is justifying his actions?
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:30 PM   #36
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invest in a nice whip and leather chaps, Leo and you'll do fine. MBC is fairly obediant.
Keep giving away my secrets and I will have to tell Sac about the bedwetting.
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:39 PM   #37
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Gonzales mentioned yesterday (with a straight face, mind you) that other presidents had authorized electronic surveillance including Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, etc.

Can I really trust the intellect of an attorney general who thinks that Washington and Lincoln authorized electronic surveillance.
Well, after doing some checking, apparently the quote was not entirely accurate. What Gonzalez actually said was that "President Bush was following in the tradition of such other wartime presidents as Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson and Franklin D. Roosevelt when he ordered warrantless domestic wiretaps."

He then went on to explain that Lincoln had authorized telegraph wiretaps. I wasn't aware that such a thing existed but it still is a bit different from the original post I made. That's what I get for not checking the facts first.

My apologies.
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Old 02-09-2006, 12:43 AM   #38
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I spoke too soon in that last post. The Colbert Report played the clip tonight and Gonzalez did in fact say specifically that Washington and Lincoln authorized electronic surveillance.

Luckily, the republicans refused to put him under oath so lying is A-ok.
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Luckily, the republicans refused to put him under oath so lying is A-ok.
Didn't they do the same for big oil execs recently? They lied, too.
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Old 02-09-2006, 09:45 AM   #40
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Lying is okay in a free-marketplace, GC. Especially when you are friends with the President.
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