Dole Whips - Not so Non-Dairy as we think !

Cadaverous Pallor · 02-09-2006, 12:11 PM

I learned in a nutrition class that chemical derivatives are very, very far removed from their original state. The only difference betwen what's called "natural flavors" and "artificial flavors" is where they came from. These "flavors" are broken down to molecules and can be identical to each other in structure. Yet since one comes from a plant and the other comes from a man-made substance, they are labeled "natural" and "artificial", respectively. Both are derived in labratory environments.

I'm sure the same is true for Sodium Casseinate. The FDA says it's so far removed that it is no longer dairy, and that makes sense.

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Sodium caseinate also is not a source of lactose."

So from a "I'm avoiding dairy because my body hates dairy" standpoint, this chemical (it's nothing but a chemical at this point) isn't a problem.

But from a "I avoid dairy because I'm against the enslavement of cows" standpoint, it's still on your no-no list.

I'd be interested what the Rabbinical point of view would be. We were not cautioned against certain chemicals.

Alex · 02-09-2006, 01:03 PM

I would think the Rabbinicalistic (to potentially create a word) view would be anti on the grounds that it had been in contact with prohibited foods.

When I worked in a salmon/crab cannery, the kosher inspection sucked. But it seems to me that we had to not only prove that crab couldn't end up in the cans of salmon but also that the salmon and crabs were never in contact prior to being canned (I assume it is ok for the salmon and crab to be all cuddly while still in the ocean).

cstephens · 02-09-2006, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

(I assume it is ok for the salmon and crab to be all cuddly while still in the ocean).

I have absolutely nothing of value to add to this discussion, but I just thought this was funny, and a good mental image too!

Ponine · 02-09-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cstephens

I have absolutely nothing of value to add to this discussion, but I just thought this was funny, and a good mental image too!

Ditto, I did a spit take.

tracilicious · 02-09-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I'm sure the same is true for Sodium Casseinate. The FDA says it's so far removed that it is no longer dairy, and that makes sense.So from a "I'm avoiding dairy because my body hates dairy" standpoint, this chemical (it's nothing but a chemical at this point) isn't a problem.

That's interesting because a lot of people with dairy allergies also react to cassein and whey. I didn't know jews don't eat dairy.

Ghoulish Delight · 02-09-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tracilicious

That's interesting because a lot of people with dairy allergies also react to cassein and whey. I didn't know jews don't eat dairy.

Laws of kosher forbid eating milk and meat together. Thus, it's important to know what foods contain milk.

02-09-2006, 01:03 PM	#2
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I would think the Rabbinicalistic (to potentially create a word) view would be anti on the grounds that it had been in contact with prohibited foods. When I worked in a salmon/crab cannery, the kosher inspection sucked. But it seems to me that we had to not only prove that crab couldn't end up in the cans of salmon but also that the salmon and crabs were never in contact prior to being canned (I assume it is ok for the salmon and crab to be all cuddly while still in the ocean).
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