Does this give you a reason to like Cheney?

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Do you hunt? Do you know about hunting safety? Do you know about bird hunting?

Cheney pulled the trigger, no doubt.

"Nothing is this administration's fault"? How does the administration come into this? This is a hunting accident.

Yes, Yes, and Yes.

This is just another example, like we really need one, of the institutional arrogance typical of the entire Bush Administration.

Cheney did not have a hunting licence, Cheney refused to meet with local police investigating a shooting, Cheney withheld the information on this as long as possible.

This is only a story because of the delay. If Cheney had cooperated with Police and issued a statement right off the bat apologizing and sending the guy his best wishes for a speedy recovery then this would have been the non-story it should have been but Cheney had to play by his rules where truth and information are what HE thinks they should be.

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

If Cheney had cooperated with Police and issued a statement right off the bat apologizing and sending the guy his best wishes for a speedy recovery then this would have been the non-story it should have been but Cheney had to play by his rules where truth and information are what HE thinks they should be.

Now now now, Moonliner.... I read that Cheney was extremely worried about his friend in the hospital as he sat down to dinner.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Cheney did not have a hunting licence

THAT is inexcusable. You must have all the proper licenses and/or tags to participate in hunting or fishing.

Wait! As a GOP member, was I just critical of a GOP vp? May it never be! Oh, my eyes have been opened and I see the error of my ways in support of any republican!

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

THAT is inexcusable. You must have all the proper licenses and/or tags to participate in hunting or fishing.

However, THAT he's blaming on a staffer of his. He can't even take responsibility for that.

Cheney's office said a staffer who obtained the vice president's hunting license was not told he needed the $7 upland game bird stamp that Texas game wardens determined was missing. Cheney was issued a warning, and Cheney said he will send the Parks and Wildlife Department a check for the stamp.

Source

Here's something else:

"It's important, always, to work to make sure you get information out like this as quickly as possible," McClellan said. "But it's also important to make sure that the first priority is focused where it should be, and that is making sure that Mr. Whittington has the care that he needs."

Same source as above.

Okay, this Administration is also proving to us that they are incapable of doing two things at once. If I couldn't do two things at once, I'd be fired from my job.

McClellan is telling us that it took 24 hours for us to hear about this because they were attending to Whittington's wounds. So, Cheney and his entire staff were in the waiting room? No one could have said, 'Hmm, maybe we should send out a press release on this...'

Same thing with Katrina. 'Now is not the time for blame. We must fix this problem. We can't investigate what went wrong and fix New Orleans at the same time. That's too hard. You're all about blame and we're all about fix... a fix that came too late, but we're all about fix.'

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

However, THAT he's blaming on a staffer of his. He can't even take responsibility for that.

And you'll notice that I am critical of Cheney for that. He needs to make sure he has all of the proper licenses before he goes hunting.

Here's my biggest issue with thinking this is any type of a cover up - what is being covered up? The lack of purchasing the proper credentials? No one disputes what happened. I don't get it.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

And you'll notice that I am critical of Cheney for that.

My frustration is not directed at you. It's with the issue we're discussing.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Here's my biggest issue with thinking this is any type of a cover up - what is being covered up?

It's not that he's trying to hide the incident, it's that he seems to be above the law because of his postion. 24 hours later, we get a filtered story. That's fishy. If I shot that lawyer, I wouldn't get that perk of having a team of people water down the situation and carefully word what happened later. Is 'peppered' a common hunting term?


Edit: I sat on my post too long. I just read what Moonliner wrote... what he said.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Is 'peppered' a common hunting term?

In terms of shotguns, yes. Not to try to be condescending, as I simply don't know your range of knowledge, but a shotgun doesn't shoot a bullet. It shoot a wide spread of pellets - in this case, birdshot, which is similar to a common BB (multiple being shot at a time).

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

It shoot a wide spread of pellets - in this case, birdshot, which is similar to a common BB (multiple being shot at a time).

Yes, I do know that. I may be a fag, but I know what a shooting range is and the rules involved. I have also shot shotguns before. Several, in fact. We own one. I have shot handguns and an elephant gun that nearly took my entire arm off.
I prefer a .45 to a .38. That's my gun of choice if I were to ever own a handgun. Ralphie's father wants to buy me one really badly but Ralphie and his mom are against the idea. Oh well.
My dad was a police officer for 33 years or so. He taught me how. I also learned about shooting rifles in the Boy Scouts. I was the best shot in my troop. I won 5 dollars in a contest. The other scouts were peeved to have lost to a Tenderfoot. Ha ha.
See, you learn new stuff everyday.



Anyway, all I'm asking is does the media say a man stormed a 7-11 and peppered the cashier with his shotgun? I think not.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

THAT is inexcusable. You must have all the proper licenses and/or tags to participate in hunting or fishing.

Wait! As a GOP member, was I just critical of a GOP vp? May it never be! Oh, my eyes have been opened and I see the error of my ways in support of any republican!

Seesch, such typical spin. Ignore the REAL issues and try to get people to focus on the minutia of a situation. You could run for VP yourself one day.

The real issue here is the turtle approach that was taken. The "I'm above the law" attitude that infects this administration.