Does this give you a reason to like Cheney?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Everything he does is important.

So you think Clinton should have held a news conference every time Lewinski checked the executive oil?

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

So you think Clinton should have held a news conference every time Lewinski checked the executive oil?

Why do we always have to come back to Clinton???


Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

So you think Clinton should have held a news conference every time Lewinski checked the executive oil?

Do I care that Lewinski smoked the executive pole? No. Do I care that Clinton lied about it under oath? Yes. One is a crime, the other isn't.

Cheney's inability to take responsibility for his actions, him being incapable of apologizing and him blaming his staffer for the stamp snafu speak volumes about the man's character. Not that he had much credibility to begin with with me.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Do I care that Lewinski smoked the executive pole? No. Do I care that Clinton lied about it under oath? Yes. One is a crime, the other isn't.

No crime here. Accident.

Look, like I said several times, I understand why it's a story. I can even understand that maybe it would have been a bit more responsible for him to say something. But I just can't bring myself to think it's a big deal. Unless he was paying people off to keep quiet about it, I don't care.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

No crime here. Accident.

I'll give you that. Would it have been a crime if it were someone else? I don't know, but I wonder.

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By Cheney not saying anything, we're left to wonder. We're left to fill in the blanks. To many, including me, this is being seen as another example of people in this Administration thinking they're above the law and need not explain anything. Wrong.

There are tons of people who feel that this event is not a non-issue. 2,885 news stories on this one incident on Google News. That's a lot.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

There are tons of people who feel that this event is not a non-issue. 2,885 news stories on this one incident on Google News. That's a lot.

I know, and that bothers me. It's inflating nothing into something, imo, and makes an easy target for administration supporters to pick apart us "liberal whiners". I really dislike it when "my side" (whatever that means) goes off on something with such little justification.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I know, and that bothers me. It's inflating nothing into something, imo...

I totally agree. There are stories out there that get so much press and get blown into a huge countrywide issue. It's confusing. It also makes me feel like anything I do could get blown up into a story on Yahoo or MSN...

Maybe there are more news outlets than actual news stories. Seems like everything is news now. Seems like all of our news places have become tabloids.

But I disagree with people out there when they say the media is liberal. That's hooey. The media is all about what's popular to criticize...

:shrug:

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

No crime here. Accident.

Manslaughter: the unlawful killing of a human being without express or implied malice

It's a good thing that that heart attack didn't kill him, or it would have been crime, since the attack was caused by the birdshot in his heart.

I do think that the VP has responsibility to report things as significant as this, if just as a pre-emptive strike against the media reaction to follow. I do find it questionable that they prolonged releasing the news. I do find his callous refusal to publicly apologize a little distasteful. If you're a public figure, your private birdshot accidents aren't "private."

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

Manslaughter: the unlawful killing of a human being without express or implied malice

That's only part of the definition. If someone jumps in front of my car while I'm driving and dies, I am not guilty of manslaughter. Or if I'm firing down a firing range and someone runs out onto the range, I'm not responsible. That seems to be the likely case here. The victim did something stupid, he approached a hunting party without announcing himself. It's terribly distressing for all involved, but nothing illegal was done.