Okay, NOW I can talk about it

alphabassettgrrl · 02-18-2006, 06:36 PM

Anything that gets on a Federal court is likely to be pretty nasty. I'm glad Susan was dismissed.

I've only been called for local juries a few times, have never been selected to be on one. I came close once, but I knew they'd bounce me pretty quickly; it was a DUI case and no defence lawyer wants me in the courtroom on his case. "Do you have strong feelings about driving and narcotics?" "Why, yes, I do"

I'd like my jury time to be some time I could actually sit the full trial. Usually they're badly timed. I've got enough down-time in my work, you'd think the jury summons could come during one of those times.

lindyhop · 02-18-2006, 06:57 PM

I served on a Federal jury two years ago. It was a really fascinating experience and even though it was five dependents and four counts each the whole thing was over in about three weeks.

Reading about this particular case had me remembering that during this trial all the jurors' names were quite openly mentioned in court. I'm used to Superior Court where I'm pretty sure they've switched to just using juror ID numbers. I don't think the defendents in this case were any danger to anyone but themselves, the charges involved conspiracy and extortion and the whole crime was the result of greed and stupidity.

After we gave the verdict (guilty) and were dismissed, the daughter of one of the defendents approached us and wanted to talk. A couple of jurors stuck around but I just wanted to go home. Then a month or two later I had a message on my answering machine from an investigator who apparently was working on the appeal for one of the defendents (the same one whose daughter had approached us) and wanted to talk to me. I got one other message from him but I never called him back.

Alex · 02-18-2006, 08:22 PM

One could argue that if you fear serving on the jury because of later retribution that you have already disqualified yourself from dispassionate service since you've obviously already reached conclusions about the criminal tendencies of the defendent.

Kevy Baby · 02-19-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

One could argue that if you fear serving on the jury because of later retribution that you have already disqualified yourself from dispassionate service since you've obviously already reached conclusions about the criminal tendencies of the defendent.

Yes, I wouldn't argue with that. A sense of survival can do that.

MickeyLumbo · 03-15-2006, 08:12 AM

trial is underway now.

news is describing defendants as ruthless.

32 counts of murder and assasinations.

"the gang would kill anyone who got in the way, or snitched on them".

added "jury is terrified to serve".

thank God GusGus is not on that jury!

the news is saying that security is extremely tight. (proving the extraordinary dangers involved).

there is not enough security that could possibly fully protect this jury from retribution. i feel so sorry for the jury/court officers. heck, i wouldn't even want to be media assigned to the story.

oh good Lord, why am i posting about this? uhh, never mind. carry on.

Kevy Baby · 03-15-2006, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MickeyLumbo

thank God GusGus is not on that jury!

Thank Goddess

FEJ · 03-15-2006, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Thank Goddess

Thank Dog!

Alex · 02-18-2006, 08:33 PM

I was curious so looked up if he's actually Jewish.

He's not. His mother remarried when he was young, to a Jew, and he got stuck with the name. No idea if this step-father somehow contributed to later tendencies.

In the process of finding this information I ended up at a message board that doesn't necessarily condemn Silverstein's positions (that's a droll understatement by the way). They claim to be a non-violent Aryan organization. Their logo is a white pride flag with a peace symbol (the inside part anyway).

I now need to go scrub my brain.

Also, there is apparently a Jewish metalsmith named Tommy Silverstein. It is weird to do a search and get a mix of Aryan Nation sites and Jewish art sites.

02-18-2006, 06:36 PM	#1
alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	Anything that gets on a Federal court is likely to be pretty nasty. I'm glad Susan was dismissed. I've only been called for local juries a few times, have never been selected to be on one. I came close once, but I knew they'd bounce me pretty quickly; it was a DUI case and no defence lawyer wants me in the courtroom on his case. "Do you have strong feelings about driving and narcotics?" "Why, yes, I do" I'd like my jury time to be some time I could actually sit the full trial. Usually they're badly timed. I've got enough down-time in my work, you'd think the jury summons could come during one of those times. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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02-18-2006, 06:57 PM	#2
lindyhop Swing Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Beach Posts: 997	I served on a Federal jury two years ago. It was a really fascinating experience and even though it was five dependents and four counts each the whole thing was over in about three weeks. Reading about this particular case had me remembering that during this trial all the jurors' names were quite openly mentioned in court. I'm used to Superior Court where I'm pretty sure they've switched to just using juror ID numbers. I don't think the defendents in this case were any danger to anyone but themselves, the charges involved conspiracy and extortion and the whole crime was the result of greed and stupidity. After we gave the verdict (guilty) and were dismissed, the daughter of one of the defendents approached us and wanted to talk. A couple of jurors stuck around but I just wanted to go home. Then a month or two later I had a message on my answering machine from an investigator who apparently was working on the appeal for one of the defendents (the same one whose daughter had approached us) and wanted to talk to me. I got one other message from him but I never called him back.
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02-18-2006, 08:22 PM	#3
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	One could argue that if you fear serving on the jury because of later retribution that you have already disqualified yourself from dispassionate service since you've obviously already reached conclusions about the criminal tendencies of the defendent.
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MickeyLumbo thankfully grateful Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: shangrila Posts: 1,388	trial is underway now. news is describing defendants as ruthless. 32 counts of murder and assasinations. "the gang would kill anyone who got in the way, or snitched on them". added "jury is terrified to serve". thank God GusGus is not on that jury! the news is saying that security is extremely tight. (proving the extraordinary dangers involved). there is not enough security that could possibly fully protect this jury from retribution. i feel so sorry for the jury/court officers. heck, i wouldn't even want to be media assigned to the story. oh good Lord, why am i posting about this? uhh, never mind. carry on. __________________ Last edited by MickeyLumbo : 03-15-2006 at 08:22 AM.
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02-18-2006, 08:33 PM	#8
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I was curious so looked up if he's actually Jewish. He's not. His mother remarried when he was young, to a Jew, and he got stuck with the name. No idea if this step-father somehow contributed to later tendencies. In the process of finding this information I ended up at a message board that doesn't necessarily condemn Silverstein's positions (that's a droll understatement by the way). They claim to be a non-violent Aryan organization. Their logo is a white pride flag with a peace symbol (the inside part anyway). I now need to go scrub my brain. Also, there is apparently a Jewish metalsmith named Tommy Silverstein. It is weird to do a search and get a mix of Aryan Nation sites and Jewish art sites.
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