Anger is a gift (Happy 3rd Anniversary!)

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

This thread wasn't intended to be about hate; it's about anger.

Interesting. I think that often times when the supposed purveyors of "hate radio" are supposedly spewing their "hate", it's anger. There's a fine and difficult to determine line drawn somewhere, and I suppose it has more to do with the ideology of the person speaking and where it falls in relation to the listener.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Hmph! While I'm certainly not going to insert myself in this thread...

[scaeagles]

Well how am I supposed to respond to that?

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Well how am I supposed to respond to that?

Ha ha. I'm just messing with you, Leo. I respect your opinions very much.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Interesting. I think that often times when the supposed purveyors of "hate radio" are supposedly spewing their "hate", it's anger. There's a fine and difficult to determine line drawn somewhere, and I suppose it has more to do with the ideology of the person speaking and where it falls in relation to the listener.

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

So this means you're withdrawing your original criticism of this thread?

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

No one else here is going to see the irony in people in this thread calling conservatives (radio etc) "hateful" when the thread starts and continues in nothing but a hate fest itself?

There was no hate expressed in this thread (well, other than iSm, of course), only anger. As far as hatred expressed by right-wing radio, it is easy to find examples, not from hateful people that call the shows, but from the hosts themselves. Here are a few examples:

"You should only get AIDS and die, you pig. How's that? Why don't you see if you can sue me, you pig." - Michael Savage to a gay caller.

"We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme brulee" - Ann Coulter

"I wanted to bludgeon her with a tire iron. That's what I wanted to do." Michael Graham on Hillary Clinton.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong but I've never heard Al Frankin or Randy Rhodes or any other liberal host EVER call for the death of anyone. Find me an example of a liberal talk show host that has stooped to these levels and I'll reconsider my position.

Therefore, I don't see the irony here.

[scaeagles]

Not a talk radio personality....but I can give you a quote from Julianne Malveaux on a PBS show, speaking of Clarence Thomas -

"You know, I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease. Well, that's how I fell. He is an absolutely reprehensible person."

And another -

PBS's Nina Totenberg: "If there is retributive justice Sen. Jesse Helms will get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it."

[scaeagles]

As a follow up, I suppose we can come to an agreement that wishing harm or death upon someone is hate speech.

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

As a follow up, I suppose we can come to an agreement that wishing harm or death upon someone is hate speech.

I'd pretty much agree that that is a good definition.

I don't think hate speech is owned solely by the right wing factions. I'm sure the left does it too, they ust don't seem to get as much press for it ....ie: it isn't as effective.