Metrolink crash in Glendale - Page 5

jdramj · 01-27-2005, 01:05 PM

An employee in my husband's office was one of the people on the train...no one has heard from her directly, but they understand that she was one of the many who were hospitalized.

It is a very sad situation. I don't know that I can pass judgement on this person. I too understand what mental issues can do to a person and that regardless of the horrific outcome the person is truely just not equipped mentally to think their actions thru and what the consequneces could be.

That being said, I don't think a defense will have much luck here, because his actions in trying to get the SUV off the tracks will show that he had a minimal mental capacity to know at some point in all of this, that what he was doing was wrong.

lizziebith · 01-27-2005, 02:29 PM

Or, the guy just wanted to save his Jeep. I doubt he was really thinking clearly.

I'm truly sorry people were injured and killed, but a murder charge seems ridiculous to me! Think back on how many news spots you've seen about train. v. automobile incidents...Usually, the score is Train:1, Car:0. I'm sure the guy had THOSE stats in mind when he considered this form of suicide. It was an anomoly that the Jeep was positioned in such a way as to cause such damage -- investigators have already said as much. Sooo, in my opinion, manslaughter - yes, murder w/ special circumstance - no.

Nephythys · 01-27-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Man accused in train crash faces murder charges

Is that ironic, or what?

I'm not convinced that was not his plan- he could not successfully kill himself, so he may be glad for someone to do it for him. Similar to suicide by police.

alphabassettgrrl · 01-27-2005, 10:04 PM

Damn. I saw a picture of this today. I feel bad for the guy, being suicidal, but really, that doesn't give you the right to take anybody else with you. There are so many ways you can hit the Great Beyond...

It's true that suicidal people hide it- my dad certainly did. Mom and my brother didn't have a clue that anything was wrong until that one morning...

But he didn't take anybody else out, only himself. Didn't even make much noise. Hardly disturbed my mom at all; she just "got a feeling" to check on him...

May the wounded heal quickly. I may renew my Costco membership; it's great that they would help out. Granted, it's a human reaction to want to help, and Costco certainly has the resources, but it's gratifying to see that a corportation might have a heart after all. Once in a while.

Ghoulish Delight · 01-27-2005, 10:43 PM

I called my mom today. She's the mom who, whenever she's sees the words "orange" and "county" in the same article, even if it's about orange ice cream at the county fair in Nebraska, calls me to make sure I'm still alive. But today she says, "Remind me how far you are from Jeffrey and the 5." We happen to live one block away from there. She says, "Oh, then did you hear about the copy cat who parked his car on the Metrolink tracks there?" No, I hadn't but that did explain the two news vans I saw parked near the tracks on the way home from work. Of course, this all happened at 4AM, a guy parked, with the intent to commit suicide, but someone saw it and called 911. All of this was cleared by the time I drove past it at 7:30 AM on the way TOO work. Leave it to the TV news to not be there until 12 hours after anything is actually happening.

Of course, if the guy who did it in Glendale is being charged with murder, should this guy be charged with attempted murder?

Motorboat Cruiser · 01-28-2005, 05:08 AM

Wow, I hadn't heard about that incident. One of my first thoughts after the Glendale accident was whether there might be copycats, especially considering the amount of coverage that Glendale got.

Tenigma · 08-20-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Man accused in train crash faces murder charges

Is that ironic, or what?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nephythys

I'm not convinced that was not his plan- he could not successfully kill himself, so he may be glad for someone to do it for him. Similar to suicide by police.

A follow-up in this case... looks like he just got handed his sentence today: Life.

Now THAT may be the most ironic of all.

Morrigoon · 08-20-2008, 03:19 PM

Actually, yeah. That's pretty darn ironic. I hope he gets to spend several months of it in a paper gown.

cirquelover · 08-20-2008, 05:36 PM

Thanks for the update. I find it interesting that the article you posted was from the BBC.

Kevy Baby · 08-20-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenigma

A follow-up in this case... looks like he just got handed his sentence today: Life.

11 consecutive life sentences. When he dies, they bring him back to life and move on to the next life sentence.

01-27-2005, 01:05 PM	#41
jdramj Trying to sleep Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 201	An employee in my husband's office was one of the people on the train...no one has heard from her directly, but they understand that she was one of the many who were hospitalized. It is a very sad situation. I don't know that I can pass judgement on this person. I too understand what mental issues can do to a person and that regardless of the horrific outcome the person is truely just not equipped mentally to think their actions thru and what the consequneces could be. That being said, I don't think a defense will have much luck here, because his actions in trying to get the SUV off the tracks will show that he had a minimal mental capacity to know at some point in all of this, that what he was doing was wrong.
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01-27-2005, 02:29 PM	#42
lizziebith Wishing these titles could be longe Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pearblossom CA Posts: 984	Devil's Advocate... Or, the guy just wanted to save his Jeep. I doubt he was really thinking clearly. I'm truly sorry people were injured and killed, but a murder charge seems ridiculous to me! Think back on how many news spots you've seen about train. v. automobile incidents...Usually, the score is Train:1, Car:0. I'm sure the guy had THOSE stats in mind when he considered this form of suicide. It was an anomoly that the Jeep was positioned in such a way as to cause such damage -- investigators have already said as much. Sooo, in my opinion, manslaughter - yes, murder w/ special circumstance - no. __________________ $ DO \|\| !$ DO ; TRY TRY: COMMAND NOT FOUND
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01-27-2005, 10:04 PM	#44
alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	Damn. I saw a picture of this today. I feel bad for the guy, being suicidal, but really, that doesn't give you the right to take anybody else with you. There are so many ways you can hit the Great Beyond... It's true that suicidal people hide it- my dad certainly did. Mom and my brother didn't have a clue that anything was wrong until that one morning... But he didn't take anybody else out, only himself. Didn't even make much noise. Hardly disturbed my mom at all; she just "got a feeling" to check on him... May the wounded heal quickly. I may renew my Costco membership; it's great that they would help out. Granted, it's a human reaction to want to help, and Costco certainly has the resources, but it's gratifying to see that a corportation might have a heart after all. Once in a while.
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01-27-2005, 10:43 PM	#45
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I called my mom today. She's the mom who, whenever she's sees the words "orange" and "county" in the same article, even if it's about orange ice cream at the county fair in Nebraska, calls me to make sure I'm still alive. But today she says, "Remind me how far you are from Jeffrey and the 5." We happen to live one block away from there. She says, "Oh, then did you hear about the copy cat who parked his car on the Metrolink tracks there?" No, I hadn't but that did explain the two news vans I saw parked near the tracks on the way home from work. Of course, this all happened at 4AM, a guy parked, with the intent to commit suicide, but someone saw it and called 911. All of this was cleared by the time I drove past it at 7:30 AM on the way TOO work. Leave it to the TV news to not be there until 12 hours after anything is actually happening. Of course, if the guy who did it in Glendale is being charged with murder, should this guy be charged with attempted murder? __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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01-28-2005, 05:08 AM	#46
Motorboat Cruiser Cruiser of Motorboats Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,665	Wow, I hadn't heard about that incident. One of my first thoughts after the Glendale accident was whether there might be copycats, especially considering the amount of coverage that Glendale got.
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08-20-2008, 03:19 PM	#48
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Actually, yeah. That's pretty darn ironic. I hope he gets to spend several months of it in a paper gown. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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08-20-2008, 05:36 PM	#49
cirquelover Cruising around in my automobile... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,617	Thanks for the update. I find it interesting that the article you posted was from the BBC.
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