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wendybeth · 03-28-2006, 07:05 PM

Alas, my great-gramps (on the maternal side) came over in 1755, and good thing. He and his brother were the younger sons of impovershed nobility, and had to relocate to make a life. They did good- fought with George at the Forge and made friends with many historical figures. (Such as Daniel Boone, a close family friend). Had they not come over, they would probably have died along with the rest of the family in the French revolution. So, immigration saved our family. However, near as I can tell, it was legal immmigration. Now, on Dad's side, that's another story. Grandpa snuck across the Canadian border and exchanged a canadian accent (actually, french-canuck) for a New York one. While I'm pretty sure he was just seeking more advantageous economic climes and not facing death, the fact remains he was an illegal. (He did become a citizen). So, I have very mixed feelings on this whole subject. I do know one thing- no other country that I know of allows so many illegals and spends so much on them. When you look at the numbers it is frightening, but then I am also kind of proud that we do take care of others, even if they are not citzens.

It's not something we can keep doing, though. We cannot afford it.

€uroMeinke · 03-28-2006, 07:12 PM

I'm the first American in our family, My parents were naturalized later, so I guess I have no rights to comment. Time to look into claiming German citizenship again - at least then as an EU citizen I could get a job in Paris and never be fired...

wendybeth · 03-28-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

I'm the first American in our family, My parents were naturalized later, so I guess I have no rights to comment. Time to look into claiming German citizenship again - at least then as an EU citizen I could get a job in Paris and never be fired...

Hey, you may be on to something..... No fear of losing your job, and with all the vacations and strikes you'd have lots of leisure time.

Prudence · 03-28-2006, 07:39 PM

I think my most illustrious ancestor is probably William Penn. Not quite Mayflower, but still pre-Revolution. That pesky Swiss side came in through Ellis Island, though.

Question: I haven't read all the various proposals - is this proposed biometric social security card supposed to apply to everyone?

innerSpaceman · 03-28-2006, 08:30 PM

Our immigration problems are triffling when compared to those of Eurasia.

Europe is on the fast track to become a muslim continent by the late-21st century, when - thanks to unbelievable rates of muslim immigration - western civilization in the Old World will become a thing of the past.

The U.S. should have a majority latin population by then. But, hey, at least christianity will still be dominant.

tracilicious · 03-29-2006, 09:45 AM

That's interesting to know, iSm. It makes me wonder what will happen to separate races and cultures. Centuries from now perhaps races will be so blended from everyone immigrating to everywhere else that perhaps white a black will be a thing of the past and everyone on earth will have medium dark skin.

I once met a Native American activist that was openly against mixed marriages for fear of losing her distinct tribe.

scaeagles · 03-29-2006, 09:59 AM

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It makes me wonder what will happen to separate races and cultures.

The Islamic culture does not play well with other cultures. I do not see the Islamic culture blending into a potpourri of cultures.

innerSpaceman · 03-29-2006, 11:57 AM

Yeah, that's the thing. Muslims will not blend, will not assimilate. You think we have a "thing" here in L.A. with latinos not bothering to learn English? That's child's play when it comes to how unassimilated muslims insist on being.

They use the freedoms guaranteed them by the western societies they immigate to in order to practice and propogate their religion, which does not grant its adherents any such freedoms to practice any other religion ... much less the western freedoms granted to women.

They are looking to take over the world much the same way christians did in the days of yore ... via speading wherever they can and having babies upon babies upon muslim babies. There will be no intermarriage, there will be no mingling of cultures. There will rather be complete assimilation of the west by Islam. And resistance is futile.

scaeagles · 03-29-2006, 12:00 PM

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And resistance is futile.

Islamo-borg! Scary.

tracilicious · 03-29-2006, 12:06 PM

Perhaps now they don't mingle, but I predict that they will. 100 years ago inter-racial marriages were almost unheard of in most of the world. Now they're quite common in many societies. I think along with migration we'll see a softening of Islam, a breaking into many sects, like with Christianity. I might be naive though, but I think 100 years ago a different Islam will exist.

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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Alas, my great-gramps (on the maternal side) came over in 1755, and good thing. He and his brother were the younger sons of impovershed nobility, and had to relocate to make a life. They did good- fought with George at the Forge and made friends with many historical figures. (Such as Daniel Boone, a close family friend). Had they not come over, they would probably have died along with the rest of the family in the French revolution. So, immigration saved our family. However, near as I can tell, it was legal immmigration. Now, on Dad's side, that's another story. Grandpa snuck across the Canadian border and exchanged a canadian accent (actually, french-canuck) for a New York one. While I'm pretty sure he was just seeking more advantageous economic climes and not facing death, the fact remains he was an illegal. (He did become a citizen). So, I have very mixed feelings on this whole subject. I do know one thing- no other country that I know of allows so many illegals and spends so much on them. When you look at the numbers it is frightening, but then I am also kind of proud that we do take care of others, even if they are not citzens. It's not something we can keep doing, though. We cannot afford it. __________________
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Our immigration problems are triffling when compared to those of Eurasia. Europe is on the fast track to become a muslim continent by the late-21st century, when - thanks to unbelievable rates of muslim immigration - western civilization in the Old World will become a thing of the past. The U.S. should have a majority latin population by then. But, hey, at least christianity will still be dominant.
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tracilicious avatar transition Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in-between Posts: 2,487	That's interesting to know, iSm. It makes me wonder what will happen to separate races and cultures. Centuries from now perhaps races will be so blended from everyone immigrating to everywhere else that perhaps white a black will be a thing of the past and everyone on earth will have medium dark skin. I once met a Native American activist that was openly against mixed marriages for fear of losing her distinct tribe. __________________ And now Harry, let us step into the night and pursue that flighty temptress, adventure! - Albus Dumbledore
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yeah, that's the thing. Muslims will not blend, will not assimilate. You think we have a "thing" here in L.A. with latinos not bothering to learn English? That's child's play when it comes to how unassimilated muslims insist on being. They use the freedoms guaranteed them by the western societies they immigate to in order to practice and propogate their religion, which does not grant its adherents any such freedoms to practice any other religion ... much less the western freedoms granted to women. They are looking to take over the world much the same way christians did in the days of yore ... via speading wherever they can and having babies upon babies upon muslim babies. There will be no intermarriage, there will be no mingling of cultures. There will rather be complete assimilation of the west by Islam. And resistance is futile.
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tracilicious avatar transition Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in-between Posts: 2,487	Perhaps now they don't mingle, but I predict that they will. 100 years ago inter-racial marriages were almost unheard of in most of the world. Now they're quite common in many societies. I think along with migration we'll see a softening of Islam, a breaking into many sects, like with Christianity. I might be naive though, but I think 100 years ago a different Islam will exist. __________________ And now Harry, let us step into the night and pursue that flighty temptress, adventure! - Albus Dumbledore
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