100,000 Protestors... Angry mobs of students...

innerSpaceman · 04-05-2006, 11:39 AM

As for the stupid flag stuff .... it's very unfortunate that in a crowd, a certain percentage of people will act like a mob.

Here in L.A., the Spanish-language media was urging protestors to carry only American flags. That would have been more politic, imo. But plenty of Mexican and other Central American flags were carried in a huge protest that stayed completely peaceful and respectful. For a crowd that size (upwards of half a million), I find that quite an accomplishment in itself.

Also, let's remember that - here in the southwest - we are relative newcomer conquerers in their country, not the other way around. And the demographics are unstoppable ... Latinos will be the majority population in our children's lifetimes. Not the majority minority (which they are today), but the outright majority. They are just beginning to flex their political muscle, and we'd better get used to it.

I bet lots of native americans said "get the fvck out," too. See what good that did.

Nephythys · 04-05-2006, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I bet lots of native americans said "get the fvck out," too. See what good that did.

Duly noted- however the USA is not an annex of Mexico. Immigration is one thing, people who think they can come here, reap financial benefit (especially taxpayers funded) pay no taxes themselves, and not have any consequences is another.

It's a passive invasion.

(and for the record I would feel this way about any illegals, I don't care where they come from)

SacTown Chronic · 04-05-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

It's a passive invasion.

Is that like when the woman is on top?

Alex · 04-05-2006, 12:43 PM

Hell, it is exactly because of the message of burning the flag (be it Mexican or American) that should give the act greater protection. If he was just buring random trash then it wouldn't matter all where or how he was doing it.

The message is what should give it free speech protections assuming that the act itself wasn't entirely reckless (through disregard for where the fire was started). Even if he was saying "I hate Mexicans." And yes, I'd say the same if he were saying through flag burning "I hate Americans" or "I hate ******s" or "I hate whitey" or "I hate Alex." Being a free speech absolutist means hearing an awful lot of things I don't like. As long as he wasn't significantly putting anybody at risk then I don't care what he was burning to make his statement.

I haven't read any of the articles so I don't know if any say where he started the fire and if any real recklessness was involved.

04-05-2006, 11:39 AM	#1
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	As for the stupid flag stuff .... it's very unfortunate that in a crowd, a certain percentage of people will act like a mob. Here in L.A., the Spanish-language media was urging protestors to carry only American flags. That would have been more politic, imo. But plenty of Mexican and other Central American flags were carried in a huge protest that stayed completely peaceful and respectful. For a crowd that size (upwards of half a million), I find that quite an accomplishment in itself. Also, let's remember that - here in the southwest - we are relative newcomer conquerers in their country, not the other way around. And the demographics are unstoppable ... Latinos will be the majority population in our children's lifetimes. Not the majority minority (which they are today), but the outright majority. They are just beginning to flex their political muscle, and we'd better get used to it. I bet lots of native americans said "get the fvck out," too. See what good that did.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Hell, it is exactly because of the message of burning the flag (be it Mexican or American) that should give the act greater protection. If he was just buring random trash then it wouldn't matter all where or how he was doing it. The message is what should give it free speech protections assuming that the act itself wasn't entirely reckless (through disregard for where the fire was started). Even if he was saying "I hate Mexicans." And yes, I'd say the same if he were saying through flag burning "I hate Americans" or "I hate ******s" or "I hate whitey" or "I hate Alex." Being a free speech absolutist means hearing an awful lot of things I don't like. As long as he wasn't significantly putting anybody at risk then I don't care what he was burning to make his statement. I haven't read any of the articles so I don't know if any say where he started the fire and if any real recklessness was involved.
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