Is there no good news in the world? There's precious little in this thread.

[innerSpaceman]

Account of VALOR????

I guess that all depends on your point of view, doesn't it?

Call me treasonous, but I support people firing on an invading army which is leading an aggressive attack to topple their government and take over their country. I have never considered the Iraqis to be enemies, since they have not taken one single action against the United States. I hold no love for their former government, but I cede their right to defend their nation against an invading army.

Sorry, but Chontosh was the aggressor in this action, and he is no hero in my book. He may not have shot first, but he was actively in the midst of an armed aggressive invasion on foreign soil without military provocation.

I'm glad for the American lives he saved, and sad for the Iraqi lives he extinguished.



You may now return to your regularly scheduled diet of Happy News. Have a nice day.

[Alex]

NPR did a story on the unemployment numbers while I was out buying groceries and they specifically mentioned that the job market is strong across almost all sectors but with particularly high demand at the top and bottom of the pay scale.

It also noted that for one in a very rare occurence, unemployment is lower among immigrants than among native-born Americans (the survey they quoted didn't try to separate legal immigrants and illegal immigrants). As noted, a strong economy does create a lot of jobs on the low end of the pay scale that just don't exist when the economy is doing poorly and these jobs are soaking up the people willing to work for low wages.

But it is cross sector. So I would stand by listing it as good news.

Other good news: Katie Couric will be moving to anchor the CBS Evening News which means there is a fair chance I'll never see her again.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Other good news: Katie Couric will be moving to anchor the CBS Evening News which means there is a fair chance I'll never see her again.

On this, we agree. How is it that this is the person that CBS felt would be best for the job? I know that when I think of trust and integrity, I think of Katie Couric.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Call me treasonous, but I support people firing on an invading army which is leading an aggressive attack to topple their government and take over their country.

they (Iraq) have not taken one single action against the United States.

Sorry, but Chontosh was the aggressor in this action, and he is no hero in my book.

I don't consider you to be treasonous, but find this argument to be diametrically opposed to one of "I support the troops". While I am certain you consider that supporting them means bringing them home (and I am assuming you would say that you support the troops, as I cannot recall reading that from you), expressing support for the opposition firing on our troops would seem to be opposed to support for them.

I suppose taking no action against the United States depends on what value you hold our agreements with allies. Kuwait was an ally. Kuwait was invaded by Iraq. Iraq was expelled from Kuwait. A cease fire was signed. The cease fire was repeatedly violated. (Yes....I know....we went in this time because of WMD, but the logic of this argument holds in terms of "no action against the US.) Violations of a cease fire after the invading army was expelled by default terminates the cease fire and the original war is now considered on again. Those violations included shooting at our aircraft patrolling the no fly zones.

Germany had not directly attacked the US either. They had attacked our allies. We assisted. I could apply your logic to support of the German army in WWII, though not to the Japanese.

Again, assuming you support the troops, not regarding as a hero someone who single handedly saved so many of his fellow soldiers in a war (and granted, you do express you are happy about that) does not seem to support them in any way. Calling our soldier an aggressor shows a complete lack of support.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Calling our soldier an aggressor shows a complete lack of support.

I think it is the current administration that is the aggressor. The troops didn't have much say in being there. I support the fact that I would like to see each of them return home safely. I don't support the fact that thousands upon thousands of innocent people have been killed by them.