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Alex · 04-10-2006, 03:08 PM

But it is a fun game of fraud hypocrisy. The Republicans don't care if there is no paper trail showing how people voted and the Democrats don't care if there is no paper trail showing that the people who vote are the ones entitled to do so (and do so only once). Both care strongly that the other not be allowed.

Each party should just pick a representative and on the alotted day they gather at a sports stadium where two voting booths have been set up and whichever representive can pull the handle the most in a 12 hour period wins the election.

scaeagles · 04-10-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

That may or may not be the thinking of those in Arizona, but the reaction of the black congress members leads me to believe that, whether you can think of it or not, there are other reasons to oppose the requirement.

Ummm.....yeah. I think that's why I said I can't really speak with knowledge as to what is going on in GA. Just what I see here in AZ. I didn't list my suspicion as a de facto answer.

scaeagles · 04-10-2006, 09:56 PM

For full disclosure, I said that the Phoenix rally fell far short of expectations. Apparently there was more difficulty than expected with people actually getting there and the rally did not reach full strength until much later than expected, and most reports put it at over 100,000.

Nephythys · 04-10-2006, 11:12 PM

Is it possible that it is as simple as- If you make people present ID, and you give them voter cards to make it easier for them- it would then become harder to scream racism and disenfranchisement when the vote doesn't go your way?

That seems like a good reason for black members of congress to walk out- it would make it to hard to try to accuse people of things that weren't happening and try to throw doubt on the vote.

Sorry- Way TOO many of the voter fraud allegations and convictions are against democrats, in democrat controlled districts with democrat's running the show.

Democrats- the party of the dead, the felons and the illegals. No, not EVERY single individual in the party wants it that way- but it is what it is.

wendybeth · 04-10-2006, 11:23 PM

Hey, at least their votes are counted.

Nephythys · 04-10-2006, 11:24 PM

*snort*

wendybeth · 04-10-2006, 11:42 PM

It only hurts when you're on the losing end of the fraud.*

*(I'm lying- I think fraud in any way is wrong, and I hope anyone engaging or profiting by it is nailed to the frikken wall- particularily voter fraud).

Gemini Cricket · 04-11-2006, 05:29 AM

Thousands of people at the Boston protest. It's weird, though. The local TV news report last night said only 2,000 people were there. The Metro paper reported 10,000. The Globe said 5,000-7,000.

Alex · 04-11-2006, 07:23 AM

The same thing always happens. Driving home the other night I had the radio pretty much on scan for several hours and caught a lot of reports of the huge Dallas march from a half dozen different sources and not one of them gave the same number (ranged from 125,000 from ABC News up to 600,000 from some news I didn't catch). My general practice is to take the report from the event sponsors and cut it in half; take the report from the opposition and double it. Then I figure the actual number was somewhere in that range.

innerSpaceman · 04-11-2006, 07:29 AM

Whatever the actual numbers are, I think it's clear that immigration reform is becoming, or has already become, the most protested issue since the Vietnam war.

This saddens me a bit. Although immigration reform is still runnig second to the Iraq war as issues Americans are concerned with (according to pollsters), I find it disheartening that more people will take to the streets on immigration.

04-10-2006, 03:08 PM	#171
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	But it is a fun game of fraud hypocrisy. The Republicans don't care if there is no paper trail showing how people voted and the Democrats don't care if there is no paper trail showing that the people who vote are the ones entitled to do so (and do so only once). Both care strongly that the other not be allowed. Each party should just pick a representative and on the alotted day they gather at a sports stadium where two voting booths have been set up and whichever representive can pull the handle the most in a 12 hour period wins the election.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	For full disclosure, I said that the Phoenix rally fell far short of expectations. Apparently there was more difficulty than expected with people actually getting there and the rally did not reach full strength until much later than expected, and most reports put it at over 100,000.
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04-10-2006, 11:12 PM	#174
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	Is it possible that it is as simple as- If you make people present ID, and you give them voter cards to make it easier for them- it would then become harder to scream racism and disenfranchisement when the vote doesn't go your way? That seems like a good reason for black members of congress to walk out- it would make it to hard to try to accuse people of things that weren't happening and try to throw doubt on the vote. Sorry- Way TOO many of the voter fraud allegations and convictions are against democrats, in democrat controlled districts with democrat's running the show. Democrats- the party of the dead, the felons and the illegals. No, not EVERY single individual in the party wants it that way- but it is what it is.
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04-10-2006, 11:23 PM	#175
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Hey, at least their votes are counted. __________________
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Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	snort
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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	It only hurts when you're on the losing end of the fraud.* (I'm lying- I think fraud in any way is wrong, and I hope anyone engaging or profiting by it is nailed to the frikken wall- particularily voter fraud). __________________ Last edited by wendybeth : 04-10-2006 at 11:52 PM.*
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04-11-2006, 05:29 AM	#178
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Thousands of people at the Boston protest. It's weird, though. The local TV news report last night said only 2,000 people were there. The Metro paper reported 10,000. The Globe said 5,000-7,000.
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04-11-2006, 07:23 AM	#179
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	The same thing always happens. Driving home the other night I had the radio pretty much on scan for several hours and caught a lot of reports of the huge Dallas march from a half dozen different sources and not one of them gave the same number (ranged from 125,000 from ABC News up to 600,000 from some news I didn't catch). My general practice is to take the report from the event sponsors and cut it in half; take the report from the opposition and double it. Then I figure the actual number was somewhere in that range.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Whatever the actual numbers are, I think it's clear that immigration reform is becoming, or has already become, the most protested issue since the Vietnam war. This saddens me a bit. Although immigration reform is still runnig second to the Iraq war as issues Americans are concerned with (according to pollsters), I find it disheartening that more people will take to the streets on immigration.
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