100,000 Protestors... Angry mobs of students...

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I find it disheartening that more people will take to the streets on immigration.

I completely agree.

[Prudence]

Immigrants are physically here. Iraq is over there, somewhere, and not on the list of vacation hot spots. Plus, immigration is something people can debate without automatically falling into the "imperialist war-monger" v. "un-patriotic terrorist sympathizer" trap.

[Alex]

Well, the current protests seem to replace "imperialist vs. traitor" with "racist vs. traitor."

But yeah, I'd say it is mostly because all the people most directly affected by the issue are here. With the Iraq war the people most directly affected aren't here in numbers and those who are tend to support the war (my sample is small but all the Iranians I know are generally supportive; as you might expect since the previous circumstance was generally the reason they were over here in the first place).

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

With the Iraq war the people most directly affected aren't here in numbers and those who are tend to support the war (my sample is small but all the Iranians I know are generally supportive; as you might expect since the previous circumstance was generally the reason they were over here in the first place).

Do you mean Iraqis or are you referring to the lengthy Iran-Iraq war (which I would figure resulted in many Iraqis and Iranians fleeing the area)?

[Alex]

Yes, I meant Iraqis. They all look alike to me.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Sorry- Way TOO many of the voter fraud allegations and convictions are against democrats, in democrat controlled districts with democrat's running the show.

Please show stats where it shows that the Democratiac party has more allegations and convictions than the Republican party.

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Democrats- the party of the dead, the felons and the illegals. No, not EVERY single individual in the party wants it that way- but it is what it is.

There are so many logical fallicies in that statement. Can you argue without attacking?

[Alex]

I don't know that the dead have any political leanings since their membership is pretty broad. I think it is safe to say that as a group illegal aliens and felons will tend to sympathize with the party platform of the Democrats, for three reasons:

1. Democrats tend to support ideas that would make naturalization easier and oppose enforcement of things that would make being here illegally uncomfortable.

2. To the extent that either party wants to decriminalize things that create felons (mostly, by ending the laughable war on drugs) it is the Democrats.

3. Felons and illegal immigrants disproportionately are part of socioeconomic groups that vote Democratic and it seems reasonable to assume that citizenship and going to jail are not likely to change general political views of a group.

So, it could be said that the Democrats are the party for illegal immigrants and felons. Of course they are the party of other groups as well (such as bumpluggers, communists, feminazis, and (environmental) terrorists).

Crap, almost made it through without attacking. Stupid sarcastic tendencies.


As to whether the dead, the felons, and the illegal immigrants are fraudulently voting in massive number? I strongly doubt it.

[wendybeth]

So I take it Abramoff and DeLay will be voting Democrat next election?

[Alex]

No, we're talking tendencies of course. And we all know that white collar shouldn't really count (and I really doubt that Delay will be convicted at all, let alone by November).

Unless you're implying that they're gay in which case they will be voting Democrat as that is just genetic.

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

.....Unless you're implying that they're gay in which case they will be voting Democrat as that is just genetic.

Uhm, there's at least one poster here that might beg to differ......