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Alex · 04-11-2006, 10:33 AM

No, we're talking tendencies of course. And we all know that white collar shouldn't really count (and I really doubt that Delay will be convicted at all, let alone by November).

Unless you're implying that they're gay in which case they will be voting Democrat as that is just genetic.

wendybeth · 04-11-2006, 10:39 AM

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.....Unless you're implying that they're gay in which case they will be voting Democrat as that is just genetic.

Uhm, there's at least one poster here that might beg to differ......

Alex · 04-11-2006, 11:10 AM

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Uhm, there's at least one poster here that might beg to differ......

A) I'm being sarcastic.

B) I'm assured by one of my gay friends that no gay person would ever vote Republican that anybody who does is just trying (and failing) to pass as gay. I, of course, don't believe him.

C) In my 3 point post above I when I got around to attacking I was attacking Nephytys's position. (The first part was to show that roughly the same point could be made without being derogatory and create a point around which discussion could proceed, the second part was to highlight the valuelessness of her method, the third part was show focus on the fallacy of her assumption.

wendybeth · 04-11-2006, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

A) I'm being sarcastic.

B) I'm assured by one of my gay friends that no gay person would ever vote Republican that anybody who does is just trying (and failing) to pass as gay. I, of course, don't believe him.

C) In my 3 point post above I when I got around to attacking I was attacking Nephytys's position. (The first part was to show that roughly the same point could be made without being derogatory and create a point around which discussion could proceed, the second part was to highlight the valuelessness of her method, the third part was show focus on the fallacy of her assumption.

I knew you were being sarcastic, Alex! Even if you didn't use a smilie.

Gemini Cricket · 04-11-2006, 11:54 AM

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B) I'm assured by one of my gay friends that no gay person would ever vote Republican that anybody who does is just trying (and failing) to pass as gay. I, of course, don't believe him.

The GLBT group the Log Cabin Republicans vote Republican. As far as I know.

Alex · 04-11-2006, 03:47 PM

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The GLBT group the Log Cabin Republicans vote Republican. As far as I know.

Yes, and it is them that he is referring to when he says they're just passing and not really gay. I'm sure even he doesn't believe that but if he could revoke their gay membership card for voting Republican he would.

iSm, would a statement that "Republicans are the party of racists, homophobes, and accounting frauds" have prodded the same warning out of you?

wendybeth · 04-11-2006, 04:17 PM

iSm can answer for himself, but I felt he outlined fairly clearly that it was the statement "Democrats- the party of the dead, the felons and the illegals." that was nearing the line, in which case yes, your example would also approach the same line.

I wonder if I were to wander into a thread at some message board like this but run by mostly conservatives if I would receive only a very mild cautionary warning? I know too many Republicans to apply such a blanket statement to them, but the body of Republican lawmakers and politicians might not get the same consideration.

Alex · 04-11-2006, 04:21 PM

Except that he laid out that it was a problem since there are a large number of democrats here. Not so true with the Republicans.

Other than having been elected by the people who agree with them, how would you go about making a blanket statement about the beliefs and traits of all elected Republicans that wouldn't also necessarily apply to the non-elected Republicans that support them?

Does "every elected Democrat is a dingleberry who believes in magical fairies" really exclude Democrats in general?

innerSpaceman · 04-11-2006, 04:19 PM

No, but only for the same reason that, were your Iraqi/Iranian comparison not a joke, it also would have slid by. And that's because - to my knowledge, there are barely more republicans than middle-easterners posting here.

My guideline is not to be unoffensive to everyone on the planet, but to be unoffensive to the people who post on the LoT. Hence my reference to Disney-geek bashing being bad.

(Actually, mindful of the proportion that 3 or 4 republicans represent on a board of roughly 55 active members, I would likely have posted a caution about a republican-smearing as well).

wendybeth · 04-11-2006, 04:25 PM

I happen to really like most of the conservatives here, and I don't hold their party affiliation against them in the slightest. I would have gotten cranky either way. It depends on the context around the statement as well- joking is one thing, but flame-baiting is another. If I were to go into a predominantly conservative area and start spouting off negatives, I would deserve what I got. Of course, the only reason I would even do so would be if I were looking to start a fight.

04-11-2006, 10:33 AM	#1
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	No, we're talking tendencies of course. And we all know that white collar shouldn't really count (and I really doubt that Delay will be convicted at all, let alone by November). Unless you're implying that they're gay in which case they will be voting Democrat as that is just genetic.
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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	iSm can answer for himself, but I felt he outlined fairly clearly that it was the statement "Democrats- the party of the dead, the felons and the illegals." that was nearing the line, in which case yes, your example would also approach the same line. I wonder if I were to wander into a thread at some message board like this but run by mostly conservatives if I would receive only a very mild cautionary warning? I know too many Republicans to apply such a blanket statement to them, but the body of Republican lawmakers and politicians might not get the same consideration. __________________
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Except that he laid out that it was a problem since there are a large number of democrats here. Not so true with the Republicans. Other than having been elected by the people who agree with them, how would you go about making a blanket statement about the beliefs and traits of all elected Republicans that wouldn't also necessarily apply to the non-elected Republicans that support them? Does "every elected Democrat is a dingleberry who believes in magical fairies" really exclude Democrats in general?
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	No, but only for the same reason that, were your Iraqi/Iranian comparison not a joke, it also would have slid by. And that's because - to my knowledge, there are barely more republicans than middle-easterners posting here. My guideline is not to be unoffensive to everyone on the planet, but to be unoffensive to the people who post on the LoT. Hence my reference to Disney-geek bashing being bad. (Actually, mindful of the proportion that 3 or 4 republicans represent on a board of roughly 55 active members, I would likely have posted a caution about a republican-smearing as well).
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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	I happen to really like most of the conservatives here, and I don't hold their party affiliation against them in the slightest. I would have gotten cranky either way. It depends on the context around the statement as well- joking is one thing, but flame-baiting is another. If I were to go into a predominantly conservative area and start spouting off negatives, I would deserve what I got. Of course, the only reason I would even do so would be if I were looking to start a fight. __________________
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