The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Um, no one EVER said that Libby's testimony pointed to Bush authorizing the Plame leak.

Oh, I agree. But are you going to deny that the buzz was that he was going to do so? And that there was great hope (even among some posters on this board, I might add) that Libby would do so?

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Isn't that kind of a contradiction?

Maybe, but who cares about details when you're throwing insults?

[Nephythys]

Or when being ignored....

[Not Afraid]

Did someone say something?

[BarTopDancer]

Dan Quayle has some interesting things to say...

A few of my favorites...

"I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican" or "I am not the problem. I am a Republican."

"I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy - but that could change."

(I guess he could see the future...)

And finally...

"I deserve respect for the things I did not do."

[Nephythys]

Eight more days and I can start telling the truth again.

-- Sen. Chris Dodd (D, Conn.), on the Don Imus show, on campaigning

Those who survived the San Francisco earthquake said, "Thank God, I'm still alive." But, of course, those who died, their lives will never be the same again.
-- Sen. Barbara Boxer, (D, Calif.)


"It isn't pollution that is hurting the environment,
it's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."
-Dan Quayle

"I love California, I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-Dan Quayle

[Tito's Kitten]

HAHAHA..... Oh that Dan Quayle. What a card!! (that Boxer one is priceless too.)

[scaeagles]

Sheila Jackson Lee (D, Texas), while viewing a live feed (well, live if you don't count the 4 minute delay) of the Mars Rover -

"Can you point the camera where the astronauts planted the flag?"

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

Did someone say something?

Could have been. Sometimes, when I read what certain people post, I hear the sound of the "Adult" voices from the Peanuts TV shows in my head.

WHA-wha-wha-wha-WHA.

[Nephythys]

More truth and history- for anyone willing to think outside their box and consider other possibilities-

Link

In the orthodox narrative line, Wilson is the truth-teller and the Bush is the liar. But Wilson was not speaking truthfully when he said his wife, Valerie Plame, had nothing to do with the CIA sending him to Niger. And it obviously wasn't true, as Wilson claimed, that he had found nothing to support Bush's charge about Niger when he (Wilson) had been told that the Iraqis were poking around in that uranium-rich nation.

snip

In truth, Bush handled the issue badly. He dithered, couldn't find the words to explain himself, and weirdly withdrew the 16 words when the pressure came. And it is surely arguable that the uranium-in-Africa charge was too flimsy for the weight Bush gave it in his speech.

But as columnist Robert Novak once argued, the burgeoning "Bush lied" mantra was heavily dependent on the uranium claim. So the liar label was most firmly attached on an issue Bush was right about. Go figure.

More in answer about Plame being covert-
Link

Contrary to published reports, a State Department memorandum at the center of the investigation into the leak of the name of a CIA operative, Valerie Plame, appears to offer no particular indication that Ms. Plame's role at the agency was classified or covert.

The memo, drafted by the then head of the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research and addressed to the then secretary of state, Colin Powell

The most frustrating thing for me is that it seems that some people want to believe that Bush lied more than they want to find out about truth. They want to see the devil in the shadows and believe negative and bad things rather than open their mind to the possibility that it might not be what they have believed it to be-