Ain't that a trip?

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

scaeagles - I don't suppose that you expected to enjoy a drug trip after someone just cut you open?

I suppose that's a valid point.

However, I like to have control of my mind. This, of course, does not mean I am always in control of my surroundings (I enjoy skydiving and bungee jumping, and while I have done them far fewer times than I wish I could, there is a certain lack of control in each). The idea of putting something in my body that limits my control (I don't enjoy alcohol for the same reason) or alters me in some way holds no appeal and never has. I would say that I'm not afraid, and while that is true, the thought of putting foreign substances into my body does scare me to a certain extent but....it's more of a lack of interest.

And I stand by my statement that I just don't think they are good for a body, regardless of limited frequency. I realize there is a medicinal value to a glass of red wine, but LSD or cocaine or X or the designer drug du jour....nah.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I realize there is a medicinal value to a glass of red wine, but LSD or cocaine or X or the designer drug du jour....nah.

Hmmm, and how long ago did they determine that a glass of red wine per day was good for you? Was that 2 years ago, while red wine has been around for centuries?

No "foreign substances?" Heheh, everyone thinks caffeine is the biggest physiology-altering drug commonly imbibed. But actually it's sugar. A hugely altering drug with far worse health consequences than caffeine. And consummed in mass quantities every day by near every one.

The only reason it's not a "foreign substance" is because it was "discovered" by western civilization when colonizing the "new world." It was plenty foreign for millennia before that. And it's a drug, plain and simple.


LSD, btw, has amazing and powerful medicinal value. If it were merely a recreational kick, I would not be thanking Albert Hofman with every third breath I take.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

No "foreign substances?" Heheh, everyone thinks caffeine is the biggest physiology-altering drug commonly imbibed. But actually it's sugar.

Well, I will say that I do attempt to limit my intake of sugar, but this is a practical impossibility.

I admit to ignorance on any medicinal purpose served by LSD. However, I doubt that it is a medicine that I need.

Do you have credible medical research evidence of healthful effects of certain drugs? I also have been recently made aware of certain positive effects of marijuana for glaucoma patients, but I would suppose that the huge majority of the commonly used illegal street drugs - such as meth, various opiates, ecstacy, whatever - are far more harmful.

I do admit to ignorance on the subject however, but I would be open to reading research from reasonably qualified sources.

[wendybeth]

I had a medical doc tell me that heroin is probably the most effective painkiller on earth- not that they can prescribe it, though. He was referring to a person I knew in horrendous pain due to terminal cancer, and was frustrated because nothing they had helped lessen her pain.