The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Jeff, while I'm proud of you for finding one example of an advancing glacier

Oh I could give you many examples of advancing glaciers; why I chose this particular one(other than the fact that it was called "Harvard") is that it is right next to a retreating one. Both share the same "enviroment"; both recieve the same amount of snow, rain, sleet and hail. If global warming was causing one to retreat then it would stand to reason.....

Originally Posted by wendybeth

I don't suppose you could be troubled to explain the many receding ones.

Many(especially the ones in Alaska) have long records of receding and then advancing sometimes changing directions as many as 4 times a century.

If they never receded the entire world would be covered in ice.

As for those Greenlandic fishermen; You're never going to get me to call these smart independent(they pulled themselves out of the European Union back in 85') hardy souls whiners. However there is plenty of precedence for what is happening now---

Climatic cooling compelled scientists to drill into the Greenland ice caps. The oxygen isotopes from the ice caps inferred that the Medieval Warm Period had caused a relatively milder climate in Greenland, which lasted roughly between 800 and 1200. However, in 1300 the climate began to gradually cool and eventually the last Ice Age reached intense levels in Greenland by 1420.----from Wikpedia

The colonies established in Greenland around 1000 thrived for hundreds years(same time as the MWP) but were completely and mysteriously lost by the 1400s(not long after the MWP was over)

[wendybeth]

I did a keyword search on global warming and came up with thousands of hits, of which only a handful fell into your line of thinking. (I suppose, using your 'majority' logic, that only serves to prove that all those scientists must be wrong). Time published an interesting article recently, which touches on many of the causes and effects of gw, and shows that the future is now: Be Very Worried. I realise you need to believe that the man and admin you voted for are right and everyone else in the world is wrong, but I'm afraid you're fighting a losing battle there.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

I did a keyword search on global warming and came up with thousands of hits, of which only a handful fell into your line of thinking.

Which just brings me back to the line of thinking 30 years ago: If the internet exsisted back then as it does now you would have had a very similar number of hits warning of "global cooling" and only a handfull saying otherwise.

The ones wearing rose colored glasses back then were right

btw: My President agrees with you on this....